09 Challenger/Mustang engines

[CBS]

Hey Chris,

the SCJ Mustangs run in SS only.....they are not stock legal.....although they offer the 08

combo for 2010 and it can run in stock.....




One of the Mustang guys....Rock

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Ok......now Im stumped.....I know what you know is correct so maybe you can help enlighten me. I havent paid near as much attention I should have but I should have but Ive been too busy trying to make this combo best (and I dont want to get too jealous of the 4 liter super

Correct me if Im wrong.

The FR500CJ (the 2008) can run ONLY AA correct (now) could run A and AA when it came out)?

Apparently in calling them SCJ's I have been wrong ?
(Im familiar with the OLD SCJ's) but I thought the NEW CJ's were also called SCJ's ? Is this correct ?

The 2010 CJ ? (not SCJ ?) will be able to run across several classes

The 2008 had enough HP added it broke to AA only ?

But the 2010 with all the different combos announced at PRI will be able to run (F?) across up ?

I guess what I meant by SCJ was really CJ ?

What is an SCJ then (other than the obvious originals ?)

Cheers

Chris

Originally Posted by CBS

Hey Chris,

the SCJ Mustangs run in SS only.....they are not stock legal.....although they offer the 08

combo for 2010 and it can run in stock.....




One of the Mustang guys....Rock

[lstanford]

The 2010 Mustang has two available engines, and three available transmissions for the 50 car build. The standard motor is an iron block, aluminum head engine rated at 425 HP available with a Liberty trans. or C4 auto. The optional aluminum block and head engine is rated at 475 HP and is available with the Liberty or a 2 SPD " Fordomatic". The 475 HP is OK'd for S/S only. The 425 HP is OK for Stock or S/S. The cars are very trick and come with two different axle ratios and even different size slicks depending on your motor and trans combination, Aeromotive fuel cell and pump, Strange 4 wheel discs, custom headers, Biondo launch control and the list goes on. No OEM has ever built a factory race car with this much thought put into it. I know you MOPAR racers love your cars but after seeing both cars, I think the Mustang blows the MOPAR away! The difference is because Ford has real drag racers helping to engineer and test their car and it is complete when you buy it. Put gas in it. check the tires and go racing. Ford makes two kinds of Hybrids, this one burns gas and rubber. Ok, now its time for bitching and complaining.

[Mack Reeves]

[ Ok, now its time for bitching and complaining.[/QUOTE]

You said a mouthfull there my friend!!!

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Ok, NOW I know what you are talking about, the motor announced at PRI that was SS only, GOTCHA....

So apparently reffering to the Cobra Jets as Super Cobra Jets was just plain wrong on my part....check.

Yeah, I know the cars are "trick" no doubt and usually someone who copies someone elses plan does better , its a fact.

The fact Ma Mopar took forever after announcing them to get them to the track and in the meantime Ford decided to follow suit.

The Funny thing is the Guy who Built the Prototype CJs and Dodge Drag Paks has a CJ and WANTS a DP because he thinks they have more potential.....just something to think about......

The costing works out the same and at 7?k the Mustang is one hell of a piece of Machinery, take and add the other 20k that it needs to be competitive and youre at the same price as a built up DP. And I dont know as much as I should about them, my HOPE (and it may be a pipedream) is Many will never see the track, and some that do will only be raced out of the box, those I think we can take by early year.......My HOPE is many get Mothballed for investments They guys who have torn em all down and done the extra work....well those guys are pointing a .45 at us and were pointing back a .38, I guess well just have to hope they are poor shots meanwhile well work on our marksmanship

They are sweet cars....had we not already been on the list for a DP or able to get one, we would have ended up with a CJ...even if we had to clone it.

We LOVE Mopars but were pretty mercenary about performace, the best gets our attention pretty quick....dosent mean we would abandon Mopars for the Colletor/Drivers we have nothing is cooler, but Heavy Weapons is Heavy Weapons.

Originally Posted by FECARMAN

The 2010 Mustang has two available engines, and three available transmissions for the 50 car build. The standard motor is an iron block, aluminum head engine rated at 425 HP available with a Liberty trans. or C4 auto. The optional aluminum block and head engine is rated at 475 HP and is available with the Liberty or a 2 SPD " Fordomatic". The 475 HP is OK'd for S/S only. The 425 HP is OK for Stock or S/S. The cars are very trick and come with two different axle ratios and even different size slicks depending on your motor and trans combination, Aeromotive fuel cell and pump, Strange 4 wheel discs, custom headers, Biondo launch control and the list goes on. No OEM has ever built a factory race car with this much thought put into it. I know you MOPAR racers love your cars but after seeing both cars, I think the Mustang blows the MOPAR away! The difference is because Ford has real drag racers helping to engineer and test their car and it is complete when you buy it. Put gas in it. check the tires and go racing. Ford makes two kinds of Hybrids, this one burns gas and rubber. Ok, now its time for bitching and complaining.

[magnumv8]

To make FECARMEN's post a little clearer....Ford is actually building 2 Different mustangs at the same time on the same line....the 2010 model Cobra Jet and the 2010 Super Cobra Jet.....the standard Cobra Jet is still the stocker everyone is familiar with and the SCJ is the NEW Super Stocker built for SS/CA...SS/C.....with the 8.50 spec cages, yes, Ford is expecting to break into the 8's.....

What took me by surprise was the NEW trans choice.....the 2 speed AUTO based on a C4......

http://www.stangtv.com/forum/followi...-jet-6381.html


D L Rambo.....

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

So are we....

Might take a couple years.....lol...but its doable.....8.99 maybe but its doable....

Thanks for the clarification, I wasnt aware it had a spec cage.

Cheers

Chris

Originally Posted by magnumv8

To make FECARMEN's post a little clearer....Ford is actually building 2 Different mustangs at the same time on the same line....the 2010 model Cobra Jet and the 2010 Super Cobra Jet.....the standard Cobra Jet is still the stocker everyone is familiar with and the SCJ is the NEW Super Stocker built for SS/CA...SS/C.....with the 8.50 spec cages, yes, Ford is expecting to break into the 8's.....

What took me by surprise was the NEW trans choice.....the 2 speed AUTO based on a C4......

http://www.stangtv.com/forum/followi...-jet-6381.html


D L Rambo.....

[lstanford]

I think a lot of people are going to be very, very surprised by the performance of these new Mustangs.