engine combination - Page 3

Bryan Worner · 08-19-2010, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Beach

135 4442 GT/FA Sid Bonnecarrere, Gray LA, '70 Duster 10.121 11.10 -0.979

As I read it Chuck, the old Top Stock motor is the one he was running in GT/FA! Now he is putting in the new Drag Pac motor! Big difference.

3055 lbs to run F!!! Thats less then my minimum to run E and it's more Cubes with a bigger throttle body!! Who rates these things.........Stevie Wonder?

Chuck Beach · 08-19-2010, 12:37 PM

Stevie Wonder? quote

My misunderstanding, when I talked to Jeff last year at Indy, I thought that was the new 360 rated at 275 .... yea, it should be fast ............................... they are rated by the CEO of government motors ... oh yea, same guy ..

Ed Wright · 08-19-2010, 02:26 PM

Guess I need to order a new Dodge truck Oh, wait. Can't run truck engines in cars in GT. Still, I'd like that tall manifold, aluminium heads with those big valves & ports, oh and that 1000 cfm throttle body in my new truck.

Whoever at NHRA that bought that hp rating needs help.

Need to move Wesley to Glendora. Things would get more real.

Can't blame MOPAR for trying, but whoever at NHRA bought into that makes me wonder what they are thinking.

gmeyer · 08-19-2010, 02:30 PM

That motor came in a DP car. I have one, still intact. If I were building a SS DP, I would start with a wreck sorta like Conutry Dog does because you are going to modify them so much, it would be a lot cheaper. With the 360, it is a natural SS/JA car. I ran mine in SS/KA cause I'm fat. We got a new 360 for this year for the Duster in GT that Kevin is gonna drive. Should be on the dyno Friday. We will also freshen the old motor which is a Top Stock motor that I recycled into GT cause I'm a green kinda guy. And I guess all them Cobalts and Cavalieres don't have hand picked, underfactored, crate motors? I love you guys.
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Jeff,
What truck (year and model) did this motor come in with Part # P5153847 al. heads on it.
just curouis

Jeff Teuton · 08-19-2010, 03:58 PM

It is a2009 motor. It evolved from 1993 truck to the 1998 R/T which had R/T heads and a single plane manifold, then both the stock heads and the r/t heads disappeared and the motor resurfaced in 2009 with the alm heads. The number you quoted is the casting number, but the part number for the heads is P5155285 for stock and the number you quoted is legal for ss. Part # & casting number is same for ss. I have both heads in stock if you are interested.

Jeff Teuton · 08-19-2010, 04:04 PM

Bryan, the Top Stock motor was converted to DP by cutting the dome off the piston, putting up the runners, putting holes in the runners for injectors, getting the cc's right. The problem is the Top Stock motor had a 580 lift cam and hydraulic rollers. That is what it still has. Ran a fastest last year of 9.85 @ Silver Dollar in good air in GT/FA. The dp motor was sorta based off that motor in T/STK. See, it was stock all the way. In the Top Stock configuration it ran a fastest of 9.52 @ 138 @ 2880 lbs with an 850 Q/F carb when it was fresh. The last run it made last year my son Joey lost Myron P. in Baton Rouge @ 9.67 @ 137. We have run that motor in various configurations since 2002. For SS, we also had to remove the plastic hood with the scoop that was worth at least .06.

Bob Pagano · 08-19-2010, 04:19 PM

Ed.......Need to move Wesley to Glendora. Things would get more real.

That will never happen with Danny there, Thats why he dont do Nationals. He sure would fix things, I have no doubt.

Bryan Worner · 08-19-2010, 07:30 PM

Jeff, is that the motor that was in the Duster in Atlanta running GT/FA? I ran against that car in Class Elims.

Jeff Teuton · 08-19-2010, 07:43 PM

That was it. We had a different driver and were having a little trouble getting a handle on it there. It ran 10 teens recently @ No Problem S/SS combo. We pulled it out. It was obviously needy. Fresh now as a backup to the new motor. Probably about time for a new set of pistons after this soup-up.

Ed Wright · 08-20-2010, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano

Ed.......Need to move Wesley to Glendora. Things would get more real.

That will never happen with Danny there, Thats why he dont do Nationals. He sure would fix things, I have no doubt.

Yeah, I know. Too bad. Doubt Wesley would want to live out there anyway.

08-19-2010, 12:37 PM	#22
Chuck Beach Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Delaware, Ohio Posts: 664 Likes: 12 Liked 58 Times in 13 Posts	Re: engine combination Stevie Wonder? quote My misunderstanding, when I talked to Jeff last year at Indy, I thought that was the new 360 rated at 275 .... yea, it should be fast ............................... they are rated by the CEO of government motors ... oh yea, same guy .. __________________ Chuck Beach 3340 STK

08-19-2010, 02:26 PM	#23
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: engine combination Guess I need to order a new Dodge truck Oh, wait. Can't run truck engines in cars in GT. Still, I'd like that tall manifold, aluminium heads with those big valves & ports, oh and that 1000 cfm throttle body in my new truck. Whoever at NHRA that bought that hp rating needs help. Need to move Wesley to Glendora. Things would get more real. Can't blame MOPAR for trying, but whoever at NHRA bought into that makes me wonder what they are thinking. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

08-19-2010, 02:30 PM	#24
gmeyer Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 183 Likes: 45 Liked 35 Times in 16 Posts	Re: engine combination That motor came in a DP car. I have one, still intact. If I were building a SS DP, I would start with a wreck sorta like Conutry Dog does because you are going to modify them so much, it would be a lot cheaper. With the 360, it is a natural SS/JA car. I ran mine in SS/KA cause I'm fat. We got a new 360 for this year for the Duster in GT that Kevin is gonna drive. Should be on the dyno Friday. We will also freshen the old motor which is a Top Stock motor that I recycled into GT cause I'm a green kinda guy. And I guess all them Cobalts and Cavalieres don't have hand picked, underfactored, crate motors? I love you guys. __________________ Jeff, What truck (year and model) did this motor come in with Part # P5153847 al. heads on it. just curouis

08-19-2010, 03:58 PM	#25
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: engine combination It is a2009 motor. It evolved from 1993 truck to the 1998 R/T which had R/T heads and a single plane manifold, then both the stock heads and the r/t heads disappeared and the motor resurfaced in 2009 with the alm heads. The number you quoted is the casting number, but the part number for the heads is P5155285 for stock and the number you quoted is legal for ss. Part # & casting number is same for ss. I have both heads in stock if you are interested. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

08-19-2010, 04:04 PM	#26
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: engine combination Bryan, the Top Stock motor was converted to DP by cutting the dome off the piston, putting up the runners, putting holes in the runners for injectors, getting the cc's right. The problem is the Top Stock motor had a 580 lift cam and hydraulic rollers. That is what it still has. Ran a fastest last year of 9.85 @ Silver Dollar in good air in GT/FA. The dp motor was sorta based off that motor in T/STK. See, it was stock all the way. In the Top Stock configuration it ran a fastest of 9.52 @ 138 @ 2880 lbs with an 850 Q/F carb when it was fresh. The last run it made last year my son Joey lost Myron P. in Baton Rouge @ 9.67 @ 137. We have run that motor in various configurations since 2002. For SS, we also had to remove the plastic hood with the scoop that was worth at least .06. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK Last edited by Jeff Teuton; 08-19-2010 at 04:10 PM. Reason: added a little

08-19-2010, 04:19 PM	#27
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 243 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: engine combination Ed.......Need to move Wesley to Glendora. Things would get more real. That will never happen with Danny there, Thats why he dont do Nationals. He sure would fix things, I have no doubt. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

08-19-2010, 07:30 PM	#28
Bryan Worner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Duncannon, PA Posts: 825 Likes: 136 Liked 535 Times in 86 Posts	Re: engine combination Jeff, is that the motor that was in the Duster in Atlanta running GT/FA? I ran against that car in Class Elims.

08-19-2010, 07:43 PM	#29
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: engine combination That was it. We had a different driver and were having a little trouble getting a handle on it there. It ran 10 teens recently @ No Problem S/SS combo. We pulled it out. It was obviously needy. Fresh now as a backup to the new motor. Probably about time for a new set of pistons after this soup-up. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK