Writing a grant to buy a Stocker for our HS - Page 3

Ronnie Smith Jr · 12-14-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie A

Drag Race High

http://www.speedtv.com/gallery/view/939721/218431

http://www.speedtv.com/programs/drag-race-high/

Thanks Charlie! Sometimers setting in I guess...

12-14-2011, 12:45 PM

I did see that show and enjoyed it. We don't have the automotive shop, tools, equipment to build a race car from scratch. We are fortunate enough to have a tiny (pardon the pun) small engines class that has a few hand tools and an extra bay in the shop we could store the car. Also, the kids I'm working with are very low income minorities that I honestly don't think would have the patience to stick with it if we did. My thinking is to buy something turn-key that someone else has already invested the time and money in building and sorting out. Plus, everyone knows you can buy an LT1 Stocker, for example, for about half of what is invested in them. Our kids would respond well to something that was done and they could see and hear right away. I know that's not the best way to go but kids are different today. I've been in education for almost 20 years and kids aren't patient anymore and don't know how to set goals and work persistently towards them. There is still a ton of teaching, motivation, and encouragement that can come from what we are proposing.

mannymen · 12-14-2011, 01:04 PM

Don't just think about Math and Science. Some may not like working on the car, getting dirty or thinking about how it works. Others may like to think about the Marketing and Finance side of things, which could pull in more students and more faculty members. You could cover all bases with this type of program to keep everyone involved. If you want the board members to sign off on this then show them how it can affect everyone

You could easily build many teams to do the following:
Logistics
Inventory
Shipping and Receiving
Accounting
Marketing
Engineering
Tuning & General Maintenance (brakes, suspension etc...)

You get the idea and this could give everyone some great experience.

How many times do you see these shows on TV and see many of the kids standing around.

Thanks
Manny

Terry Cain · 12-14-2011, 03:43 PM

I taught HS machine shop for several years. The first year I taught I was trying to teach about gear ratio's and come up with a chart showing gear ratio's vs. 1/4 mile performance.
I always had a couple kids that once they saw it and talked about it started to get the point and "a light clicked on" with them. Best job I ever had but also the most demanding.

Bernie Cunningham · 12-16-2011, 10:03 PM

Scott,
I tried to reply to your PM but it wouldn't go thru. I will send you the spec sheet and lots of photo's of the rebuild.
My e-mail address is bonzaproducts@att.net

bob gonier · 12-17-2011, 07:24 PM

Back in the late 90's I started a Highschool drag racing class at E-town. At that time I had been teaching for about 5 years and was very enthusiastic to promote and grow bracket racing with my students. It was mildly successful at best and the second my High school found out what we were doing, they shut any involvement with the school name down. Our school's lawyers made it very clear ......... drag racing and High school dont mix. It was very dissapointing to say the least and after a few years it just fell by the way side. In todays day and age I doubt any school district would seriously entertain a school owned and operated racecar. The liabilty would far outweigh any promotional or beneficial advertisement or benefits. Purchasing one with a grant further compounds the liability issues. I myself own a few race cars and I have been told on numerous occasions that my cars cannot be associated in any way with our school. Bringing them into school for maintanance or promotional reasons even seems to ruffle some feathers.
Obviously I wish you the best of luck, and hopefully you live in an area that actually encourages these type of things. Imagine teaching kids how to safely and responsibly enjoy drag racing............ What a concept.

bob

Jack McCarthy · 12-18-2011, 02:43 PM

perfect > the US Government and nhra will love each other...

lets see
1. i cannot afford to race against the school car, thats descrimination so the ACLU will file suit on my behalf, and the governmement will be forced to support all racers.
2. i cannot compete with the school car, thats an unfair platform so the ACLU will gain control of the AHFS and factor all winners +50hp untill everyone has won one.
3. i am a female and the school car is driven more by the 30 boys in the class than by us two girls... title 9 says we get our own cars.
4. there is too much emphasis on winning and losing and can effect a students self confidence, therefore winning will not insure you of a win, there will, be other factors like your nationality, sex, class status and social upbringing for you final standings (grade)

jack

well at least the government is supporting something in our country not abroad !!!

12-27-2011, 01:33 PM

UPDATE: Over the holidays I have been corresponding via email with our district curriculum director who will be the last person to sign-off on the grant and give us the go-ahead. After reading my proposal she is very excited about the possibilities this has for our students and wants to know what it will take to move ahead and have something in place soon. I have a meeting with her on Monday, January 2 when we return from Christmas break to finalize plans. I'm very optimistic this could become a reality and am keeping my fingers crossed.

Happy New Year's to all!

01-03-2012, 09:18 AM

Well, believe it or not, I met with the assistant superintendent yesterday and she gave us the green light (pardon the pun) to purchase a car, enclosed trailer, and support equipment/tools to begin racing when the tracks open.

Needless to say we are so excited about the possibilities this has for our young people. With the technology and tuning involved, as well as my background, I have decided to buy a late-model LT1 car. I've been looking at a couple on the market now. Time to decide which one to go with and get started.

Watch for us at the track. We'll be the group with a handful of teenagers walking around with HUGE eyes and GIANT smiles as it will be the first time at the track for all of them.

Scott

Charlie A · 01-03-2012, 09:52 AM

Big Congrats!!!!!!

Keep us posted on the progress and when you can, get the computer class to create a website for your "team".

So many teaching opportunities here.

12-14-2011, 12:45 PM	#22
Tar Heel Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Writing a grant to buy a Stocker for our HS I did see that show and enjoyed it. We don't have the automotive shop, tools, equipment to build a race car from scratch. We are fortunate enough to have a tiny (pardon the pun) small engines class that has a few hand tools and an extra bay in the shop we could store the car. Also, the kids I'm working with are very low income minorities that I honestly don't think would have the patience to stick with it if we did. My thinking is to buy something turn-key that someone else has already invested the time and money in building and sorting out. Plus, everyone knows you can buy an LT1 Stocker, for example, for about half of what is invested in them. Our kids would respond well to something that was done and they could see and hear right away. I know that's not the best way to go but kids are different today. I've been in education for almost 20 years and kids aren't patient anymore and don't know how to set goals and work persistently towards them. There is still a ton of teaching, motivation, and encouragement that can come from what we are proposing.

12-14-2011, 01:04 PM	#23
mannymen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 728 Likes: 5 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Writing a grant to buy a Stocker for our HS Don't just think about Math and Science. Some may not like working on the car, getting dirty or thinking about how it works. Others may like to think about the Marketing and Finance side of things, which could pull in more students and more faculty members. You could cover all bases with this type of program to keep everyone involved. If you want the board members to sign off on this then show them how it can affect everyone You could easily build many teams to do the following: Logistics Inventory Shipping and Receiving Accounting Marketing Engineering Tuning & General Maintenance (brakes, suspension etc...) You get the idea and this could give everyone some great experience. How many times do you see these shows on TV and see many of the kids standing around. Thanks Manny __________________ N/A Last edited by mannymen; 12-14-2011 at 01:06 PM.

12-14-2011, 03:43 PM	#24
Terry Cain Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Georgetown, Indiana (close to Louisville, KY) Posts: 777 Likes: 530 Liked 231 Times in 107 Posts	Re: Writing a grant to buy a Stocker for our HS I taught HS machine shop for several years. The first year I taught I was trying to teach about gear ratio's and come up with a chart showing gear ratio's vs. 1/4 mile performance. I always had a couple kids that once they saw it and talked about it started to get the point and "a light clicked on" with them. Best job I ever had but also the most demanding. __________________ Terry Cain ???? STK tcain19689585@gmail.com

12-16-2011, 10:03 PM	#25
Bernie Cunningham Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 560 Likes: 45 Liked 52 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Writing a grant to buy a Stocker for our HS Scott, I tried to reply to your PM but it wouldn't go thru. I will send you the spec sheet and lots of photo's of the rebuild. My e-mail address is bonzaproducts@att.net __________________ Bernie Cunningham 7053 STK

12-17-2011, 07:24 PM	#26
bob gonier Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: monroe twp nj Posts: 66 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Writing a grant to buy a Stocker for our HS Back in the late 90's I started a Highschool drag racing class at E-town. At that time I had been teaching for about 5 years and was very enthusiastic to promote and grow bracket racing with my students. It was mildly successful at best and the second my High school found out what we were doing, they shut any involvement with the school name down. Our school's lawyers made it very clear ......... drag racing and High school dont mix. It was very dissapointing to say the least and after a few years it just fell by the way side. In todays day and age I doubt any school district would seriously entertain a school owned and operated racecar. The liabilty would far outweigh any promotional or beneficial advertisement or benefits. Purchasing one with a grant further compounds the liability issues. I myself own a few race cars and I have been told on numerous occasions that my cars cannot be associated in any way with our school. Bringing them into school for maintanance or promotional reasons even seems to ruffle some feathers. Obviously I wish you the best of luck, and hopefully you live in an area that actually encourages these type of things. Imagine teaching kids how to safely and responsibly enjoy drag racing............ What a concept. bob

12-18-2011, 02:43 PM	#27
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,322 Likes: 29 Liked 476 Times in 117 Posts	Re: Writing a grant to buy a Stocker for our HS perfect > the US Government and nhra will love each other... lets see 1. i cannot afford to race against the school car, thats descrimination so the ACLU will file suit on my behalf, and the governmement will be forced to support all racers. 2. i cannot compete with the school car, thats an unfair platform so the ACLU will gain control of the AHFS and factor all winners +50hp untill everyone has won one. 3. i am a female and the school car is driven more by the 30 boys in the class than by us two girls... title 9 says we get our own cars. 4. there is too much emphasis on winning and losing and can effect a students self confidence, therefore winning will not insure you of a win, there will, be other factors like your nationality, sex, class status and social upbringing for you final standings (grade) jack well at least the government is supporting something in our country not abroad !!! __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"

12-27-2011, 01:33 PM	#28
Tar Heel Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Writing a grant to buy a Stocker for our HS UPDATE: Over the holidays I have been corresponding via email with our district curriculum director who will be the last person to sign-off on the grant and give us the go-ahead. After reading my proposal she is very excited about the possibilities this has for our students and wants to know what it will take to move ahead and have something in place soon. I have a meeting with her on Monday, January 2 when we return from Christmas break to finalize plans. I'm very optimistic this could become a reality and am keeping my fingers crossed. Happy New Year's to all!

01-03-2012, 09:18 AM	#29
Tar Heel Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Writing a grant to buy a Stocker for our HS Well, believe it or not, I met with the assistant superintendent yesterday and she gave us the green light (pardon the pun) to purchase a car, enclosed trailer, and support equipment/tools to begin racing when the tracks open. Needless to say we are so excited about the possibilities this has for our young people. With the technology and tuning involved, as well as my background, I have decided to buy a late-model LT1 car. I've been looking at a couple on the market now. Time to decide which one to go with and get started. Watch for us at the track. We'll be the group with a handful of teenagers walking around with HUGE eyes and GIANT smiles as it will be the first time at the track for all of them. Scott

01-03-2012, 09:52 AM	#30
Charlie A VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 2,483 Likes: 68 Liked 87 Times in 63 Posts	Re: Writing a grant to buy a Stocker for our HS Big Congrats!!!!!! Keep us posted on the progress and when you can, get the computer class to create a website for your "team". So many teaching opportunities here.