Aftermarket Rack & Pinion - Page 3

Tom keedle · 05-10-2012, 06:53 PM

question; how is a rack gonna be any stronger than a centerlink if you've got a rod beating the snot out of it?
last i checked, they'll be in the same general area and, btw, i see broken racks (oem) every now and then...

NWDragracing · 05-10-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

You never answered Why you think the older cars are unsafe! Are you after a r&p for your Chevy II?

There are a few cars that I have seen develop cracks on the cross members and also on the lower control arms from wheel stands including ball joints go thru the lower control arm mount.

There are many cars out there that have reinforced lower control arms for this reason.

Many of the Global West lower and upper bushing kits come with reinforcement plates too.

BlueOval Ralph · 05-10-2012, 07:00 PM

Just how many of the Hemi's have had this failure? Ran in the high 8's 35 years ago big wheel stands and all!

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Originally Posted by Bobby Bennett

ask any of the Hemi guys about breaking a box and losing steering. Of course, I'd love to have a modern day manufactured rack and pinion on my wagon -- running in the nines as opposed to the stock unit. Who wouldn't?

Bobby Bennett · 05-10-2012, 08:15 PM

Ask Steve Kent about them.

SPS · 05-10-2012, 08:30 PM

Bobbie,
Like I said before, there are very qualified chassis builders working within the rules to make all these cars safe to drive at speed. A lot of engineering goes into the steering among all other parts of the Super Stock racecar chassis.

We are NOT interested in making another super gas class!

FJ Smith

NWDragracing · 05-10-2012, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SPS

We are NOT interested in making another super gas class!
FJ Smith

Yep, very interesting comment from a shop that builds Super Stock cars with SFI 25.2 and SFI 25.5 cages,Pinto Rack & Pinions, along with tubular K-Members and lower control arms.

Bobby Bennett · 05-10-2012, 10:08 PM

FJ, I have the utmost of respect for what you've done and accomplished in this sport.

But, putting a rack on an old school Camaro, Nova or Mustang is far from Super Gas. Putting a rack on a SS/AH car is not Super Gas either.

SPS · 05-10-2012, 10:22 PM

I will tell you this much, it ain't that easy.

It would require a lot of changes in components that are deemed stock to use for the model(s) in question.

Believe me, I, and others, have no doubt tried these changes in the past.

FJ

Chad Rhodes · 05-10-2012, 11:18 PM

Doesn't NASCAR still use a "box" style steering?

BlueOval Ralph · 05-11-2012, 08:10 AM

Yes

05-10-2012, 06:53 PM	#21
Tom keedle Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Berthoud, Coloraduh Posts: 695 Likes: 13 Liked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion question; how is a rack gonna be any stronger than a centerlink if you've got a rod beating the snot out of it? last i checked, they'll be in the same general area and, btw, i see broken racks (oem) every now and then... __________________ without losers,winning means nothing.

05-10-2012, 08:15 PM	#24
Bobby Bennett Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 67 Likes: 0 Liked 14 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion Ask Steve Kent about them.

05-10-2012, 08:30 PM	#25
SPS Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cayuga, Canada Posts: 298 Likes: 37 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion Bobbie, Like I said before, there are very qualified chassis builders working within the rules to make all these cars safe to drive at speed. A lot of engineering goes into the steering among all other parts of the Super Stock racecar chassis. We are NOT interested in making another super gas class! FJ Smith

05-10-2012, 10:08 PM	#27
Bobby Bennett Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 67 Likes: 0 Liked 14 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion FJ, I have the utmost of respect for what you've done and accomplished in this sport. But, putting a rack on an old school Camaro, Nova or Mustang is far from Super Gas. Putting a rack on a SS/AH car is not Super Gas either.

05-10-2012, 10:22 PM	#28
SPS Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cayuga, Canada Posts: 298 Likes: 37 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion I will tell you this much, it ain't that easy. It would require a lot of changes in components that are deemed stock to use for the model(s) in question. Believe me, I, and others, have no doubt tried these changes in the past. FJ

05-10-2012, 11:18 PM	#29
Chad Rhodes VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Where the Green Grass Grows, AL Posts: 2,375 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion Doesn't NASCAR still use a "box" style steering? __________________ Chad Rhodes 2113 I/SA

05-11-2012, 08:10 AM	#30
BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion Yes