Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! - Page 3

C and W Racing · 07-30-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gsa612

I believe he ran t/f or f/c in the early 70's with Gary Beck out of Edmonton. He's just following nhra protocol never admit it's our error, no matter how much evidence you have, and they do not use video playback like in hockey etc. to reverse a decision, which would have helped in this situation. gsa612

Sad part is, he did look at the vidio. Then he makes a dumb comment about maybe Kurt staged deep. I guess when he was looking at the vidio, he didn't see the stage, pre stage, all the ambers and the red light on all at the time.
Chuck

C and W Racing · 07-30-2012, 04:39 PM

It also took him days to admit he was wrong and give Steve Johnson the win at Indy years ago when vidio replay clearly showed he got to the strip first. I don't know why it is so hard for NHRA to admit that the timing system can have issues at times.
Chuck

Keith 944 · 07-30-2012, 04:40 PM

it is all about the show, and TV. Graham could care less who wins or loses. IMO. Kurt got screwed, wasn't the first, won't be the last.

gsa612 · 07-30-2012, 04:53 PM

If it was Warren I could imagine the post race interview, and the s#*t storm to follow. gsa612

Wisman Racing · 07-30-2012, 05:36 PM

Well it's televised up here on wednesday. Guess i will see for myself then. Until then i have complete faith in the sanctioning body.

C and W Racing · 07-30-2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisman Racing

Well it's televised up here on wednesday. Guess i will see for myself then. Until then i have complete faith in the sanctioning body.

Lol
Chuck

boster · 07-31-2012, 04:03 PM

I've had my share of issue with the so called "Guard Beam" and it sucks . NHRA should get rid of it now . Several Pros and Sportsman racer have been burned by it this year . They can say what they want but in my opinion it's not on every round at the Nationals , I think the starter turns it on when he wants .

Kurt got screwed

Jason · 07-31-2012, 09:01 PM

I found this explanation of the Guard Beam at...

www.hoosiertire.com/dragman.htm

It states the following:

"Guard beam: A light beam-to-photocell connection located 16 inches past the stage beam that is used to prevent a competitor from gaining an unfair starting line advantage by blocking the stage beam with a low-installed object such as an oil pan or header collector pipe. If the guard beam is activated while the stage beam is still blocked, the red foul light is triggered on the Christmas Tree and the offender is automatically disqualified."

The best explanation is when Kurt matted the throttle, the torque of the engine twisted the car enough allowing something on the lower front of the car to set off the guard beam and caused the redlight. No he did not move but the front of his car was too low and the guard beam caught him.

Ed Wright · 07-31-2012, 09:14 PM

Kurt's car measured 1/8" over the minimum. They are not dumb enough to set the car too low. They know all about the guard beam.

boster · 07-31-2012, 10:37 PM

I checked my car with a 3 1/2 in pvc pipe front to rear nothing hit . I also had video showing the car did not move forward . The body did torque when I matted it put not a inch. This seems to happen with cars that sit low .

07-30-2012, 04:39 PM	#22
C and W Racing Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 557 Likes: 6 Liked 13 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! It also took him days to admit he was wrong and give Steve Johnson the win at Indy years ago when vidio replay clearly showed he got to the strip first. I don't know why it is so hard for NHRA to admit that the timing system can have issues at times. Chuck

07-30-2012, 04:40 PM	#23
Keith 944 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 2,195 Likes: 1,162 Liked 1,883 Times in 578 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! it is all about the show, and TV. Graham could care less who wins or loses. IMO. Kurt got screwed, wasn't the first, won't be the last. __________________ KEITH MAYERS 2-1/2 X somebody Still many X nobody

07-30-2012, 04:53 PM	#24
gsa612 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 100th Meridian Posts: 569 Likes: 116 Liked 280 Times in 139 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! If it was Warren I could imagine the post race interview, and the s#*t storm to follow. gsa612

07-30-2012, 05:36 PM	#25
Wisman Racing Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Cambridge, Ontario Posts: 24 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! Well it's televised up here on wednesday. Guess i will see for myself then. Until then i have complete faith in the sanctioning body.

07-31-2012, 04:03 PM	#27
boster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: usa Posts: 958 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! I've had my share of issue with the so called "Guard Beam" and it sucks . NHRA should get rid of it now . Several Pros and Sportsman racer have been burned by it this year . They can say what they want but in my opinion it's not on every round at the Nationals , I think the starter turns it on when he wants . Kurt got screwed __________________ Bo Kenney

07-31-2012, 09:01 PM	#28
Jason Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 235 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! I found this explanation of the Guard Beam at... www.hoosiertire.com/dragman.htm It states the following: "Guard beam: A light beam-to-photocell connection located 16 inches past the stage beam that is used to prevent a competitor from gaining an unfair starting line advantage by blocking the stage beam with a low-installed object such as an oil pan or header collector pipe. If the guard beam is activated while the stage beam is still blocked, the red foul light is triggered on the Christmas Tree and the offender is automatically disqualified." The best explanation is when Kurt matted the throttle, the torque of the engine twisted the car enough allowing something on the lower front of the car to set off the guard beam and caused the redlight. No he did not move but the front of his car was too low and the guard beam caught him.

07-31-2012, 09:14 PM	#29
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! Kurt's car measured 1/8" over the minimum. They are not dumb enough to set the car too low. They know all about the guard beam. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

07-31-2012, 10:37 PM	#30
boster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: usa Posts: 958 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! I checked my car with a 3 1/2 in pvc pipe front to rear nothing hit . I also had video showing the car did not move forward . The body did torque when I matted it put not a inch. This seems to happen with cars that sit low . __________________ Bo Kenney