Fuel Check What's the point???

[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by Bob Don

This thread has strayed a little from fuel check. I'll throw in my .02 in that I agree with Joe. In a previous thread, Bob Bender suggested that any fuel DQ on the low side (showing old or bad fuel) not be counted as this does not offer any performance advantage. I agree with that. Last year I bought 10 gallons of fresh Sunoco purple at Numidia and went to Englishtown the following weekend for the Supernationals and my fuel was declared no good. Luckily, I had an old jug of Sunoco and it passed no problem. (my lawn mower ran great that summer). So how about continuing with fuel check but only DQ for failure on the high side?

I have run Sunoco Purple with NO problems until this year.You go to a race and they tell you that your fuel is close to not passing,better get some fresh fuel.(It was fresh)

You get to the next race one week later and your fuel is really good....NO problem (Same fuel)

You go to the next race,and its borderline again.

(This is from testing a sample right out of the jug to eliminate anything to do with the car)

How can it get old,fresh,and old again in a matter of a few weeks?

[FINESPLINE]

Truly amazing how fuel ( racing gas ) can be bought fresh in a sealed can and immediately not pass check and amazingly enough rejuvenate itself and pass check another week. If the fuel is on the low side or on the verge of checking low why would it not be able to be used. The owner/ driver would only be shorting himself of the extra hp. At the price of the fuel that should be his decision. Somebody is stroking somebody bigtime. I won't point no fingers, your big boys,you know what I am talking about. Just another NHRA enhancement. Has anybody ever challenged the findings of a fuel check as there seems to be plenty of money in the pits. What is it to buy the same equipment nhra uses and compare. You might be surprised it just might stop. my .02 cents

[Bob Pagano]

Got an extra $3500 to buy one, newer ones are more. That is why no one bitches

[FINESPLINE]

Bob, And thats why things are what they are ! ---John

[Toby Lang]

I always love it when you have a heads-up race in the later rounds and they have cones up in front of the scales and they wave you by both the scales and fuel check.

It's the most important time to check weight and fuel and they don't do it? Maybe before they close the scales they could call up to the tower and ask if they have any heads-up races this round, but that's probably too much to ask.

[Greg Hill]

I have run Sunoco purple for the last three tears with no problems until recently. I buy my fuel in sealed drums from a guy in Harrodsburg, Ky who gets it from Wick oil in St. Louis. Andrew went to fuel check at Earlville and his fuel was not even close. Turns out or new drum of fuel was not what it should have been. Greg Anderson was in front of us in the fuel check line with purple he said was two years old and it was fine. After a few phone calls it seems that quite a few folks have had trouble with purple this year. One of my sources told me he felt like Sunoco was having quality control problems with purple. I also bought a drum of blue to try and have been told there were very few problems with the blue. Talking to the guy at Sunoco he told me that the blue was more stable and faster burning than purple. I am going to Columbus with the blue in my car and hope there are no issues.

[BlueOval Ralph]

A lot of it has todo with burn rate

Originally Posted by FINESPLINE

I had read a few years ago in a engineering journal that in many instances ( not all -but most ) that engines ( stock type ) can ran faster on a certain tune with lower octane than available race gas. That going as low as you can with octane with no detonation has shown those results. Would love to post the article but can't find the magazine since I moved. This probably has something to do with the big power engine builders and tuners are getting from pump gas motors nowadays. Wouldn't that be a nice shot in the wallet.

Why cant one of the fuel manufactures blend a 93 octane pump gas blend with no ethanol for a budget type fuel. Buy it from a company without all the extra additives, or before all the blending that happens? Sell it for 5 to 7 dollars a gallon. Not all would use it, but I bet many would..

[Lew Silverman]

Originally Posted by todd hoven

why cant one of the fuel manufactures blend a 93 octane pump gas blend with no ethanol for a budget type fuel. Buy it from a company without all the extra additives, or before all the blending that happens? Sell it for 5 to 7 dollars a gallon. Not all would use it, but i bet many would..

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[JOE ZOOM]

If fuel has been tamperd with to gain some sort of an edge then hey you should fail,other then that is there any good reason anyone should ever fail fuel check???