Factory Showdown Cars and Indy 2014

[james schaechter]

Originally Posted by GUMP

I think it would be cool if Factory Stock was run as a qualified 16 car field as part of the main event instead of class eliminations. Call it Factory Experimental too.

Finally! Back to where it should have started LOL.
Cool cars for sure. NHRA just needs to actually evaluate what they did with the shootout. That would mean they should do a 360 degree evaluation. Ask sponsors, participants, affected racers, NHRA officials (not just Glendora yes men) and fans.

Someone said it is just a couple of races. True enough. Except Indy is not just another race.

Since it is a shootout only at a couple races, why not break them out separately?

I doubt if NHRA has any decision makers looking at Classracer to gather input, so the discussion is just talking among racers here.

It is good to hear ideas from all different perspectives. Maybe NHRA should send their Marketing department to some Division and National meets. Force them to camp in the pits and see what they learn.
I know they made an effort to mingle with us little people at Indy, but they need to back it up with some real action items to be credible. This would be a great opportu ity to show that they actually meant what they said about the sportsman experience.

[Eric Merryfield]

Originally Posted by GUMP

I think it would be cool if Factory Stock was run as a qualified 16 car field as part of the main event instead of class eliminations. Call it Factory Experimental too.

Not a bad idea, they could also create a few indexes in Comp just for the new factory cars, make it attainable without spending 50K on engine work and increase the exposure for the auto makers(Comp is front of the crowds right?), give the guys that just want to go as fast as possible a outlet, and get those nice Comp parking spots at the national events(paved)! Wouldn't be that hard to make the indexes doable, you could in theory do it now, but not with the full motor menu available......it was part of the drag pak literature back in the early days, so its not a new thought. These cars deserve more swimming pools to play in. Who wouldn't entertain Comp if you have a factory car?

Out to walk the beagles, balmy 28 degrees here in MA.

Eric

[Larry Hill]

That is some good stuff Eric. FX in Comp. Great exposure for the big three. Good parking for the cars. More of full field for comp. Index adjustments as they race. After each round they get towed back to the pits on the return road in front of the fans. They get to sleep later. Most racer will be racing against a similar investment. The AHFS does not apply.

It is 27degrees in this part of KY.

[Mike Carr]

I think it's pretty simple:

If you are running with/as part of Stock Eliminator, AHFS applies. -1.219 under = Horsepower penalty. Period.

If you are in a shootout of your own, with no AHFS or other stuff, you are seperate from Stock and not part of the 128 car Indy field.

[chris ok]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Now that I would pay to see! If need be, make it 32 cars. It would be a lot easier to understand for the casual fan then what modern-day ProStock has become.

A 32 car field on sunday will help fill the stands. I know E Town needed the help on sunday this year, I was there.
Will help others want to understand what the other classes are about, stock and super stock that is.
real looking cars racing.

It really shouldn't be an issue at this time, just when will it start......

Chris

[Pistol Pete]

I think At Indy they should run the Factory Cars the same as the Hemi Shoot-out.

If 30 cars show up Run them all, If 40 cars show up Run them all.

They could have there own Eliminator.

By not giving them the AHFS is just wrong, when 14 of 16 of those were the New Cars.

Or like someone said, lower there index's !!!

Make the playing field a little more even.

Just my .03 cents worth.

[John Duzac]

I like the factory cars and would probably have one if I could afford one. It would be a stick! I do think they should be in their own class. The new cars beat up on almost every A/SA and B/SA car that was running. Many are gone now. I suspect that will change when the new cars finally get where they belong.

By the way, it is 40 cold degrees here in Covington, La. Freezing my behind off! But we're in the garage working on the car trying to find more H.P. That much never changes. And it never will!

Good luck to all.

[Rat Raceway]

All great ideas!

IMO, AFHS needs to be in forced if your running stock.

It's only 7 degrees in Denver. COLD!

[goinbroke2]

Originally Posted by Mike Carr

I think it's pretty simple:

If you are running with/as part of Stock Eliminator, AHFS applies. -1.219 under = Horsepower penalty. Period.

If you are in a shootout of your own, with no AHFS or other stuff, you are seperate from Stock and not part of the 128 car Indy field.

X1000!!! Can't get any more simple than that!
Your all in or your all out, period!

[Dyno]

I brought the hemi home on Monday when it was a warm 28*, -14* on Friday night, snow and a warmer 8* this Sunday. Dyno (Mpls., Mn)