Hoosier Slicks & front tires

[nhramnl]

I've run radial slicks on each of my TWO MPR Super Stock Cavaliers because when I need to be as quick as I can possibly be (like running for class or in a heads-up run in eliminations), they tend to give me a few hundredths. That's the ONLY reason I ever use radials. You sound like a guy who wishes his expensive, elephant-motored bracket car was still a legitimate class car.

[1320racer]

Got zero desire to run Super Stock and both my cars are quicker and faster than yours.

[nhramnl]

You've been down this road with too many people in the past, Ed. It leads nowhere. Discussion over.

[1320racer]

what part of the FACTS and the TRUTH don't you like?

Is it the fact that radial wobble has nothing to due brand name or air pressure and everything to due with track prep and chassis setup?

Or is it the TRUTH that both my cars are quicker and faster than yours?

or maybe it's the FACT that a bypass kit, two -3 lines plumbed into your regulator will do nothing except lighten your wallet.

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by nhramnl

On a bracket car? Why?

I will only run radials on my 9" tire bracket/Super Street car. I have a lot of reasons why, and can't think of any reason NOT to.

[nhramnl]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

I will only run radials on my 9" tire bracket/Super Street car. I have a lot of reasons why, and can't think of any reason NOT to.

The reason is because there's no "margin of error" with them. They either dead-hook or spin. Stick cars can't use them at all, for that reason. With bias-ply tires, if you don't dead-hook, you still have SOME chance of salvaging the pass. With radials, you're done.

[Ed Wright]

Only "radial wobble" I ever had with mine was from trying to run narrow wheels, like you would a bias tire. I use 14" wide wheels on my 13" X 31" MT radials, 13 psi, never spins or wobbles. Tubeless, they don't leak.

A-B-A tested MT, GoodYear & Hoosier, same day, even with all of them dead hooking, MTs were quicker. Hoosier was quicker than Goodyear, which was the slowest.
I blamed that on weight, GoodYears were/are about 5lbs per tire heavier than Hoosier. Hooked as hard as the MTs, but still slower. Most of the difference was in 60'. I don't know much, but I blamed it on weight, and maybe sidewall design.

Don't know if this will help somebody, or offend somebody. Hoping for the former.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by nhramnl

The reason is because there's no "margin of error" with them. They either dead-hook or spin. Stick cars can't use them at all, for that reason. With bias-ply tires, if you don't dead-hook, you still have SOME chance of salvaging the pass. With radials, you're done.

my car dead hooks every pass! 60 foots low 1.20s to high teens. If you're spinning the tire, fix the car!

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by nhramnl

The reason is because there's no "margin of error" with them. They either dead-hook or spin. Stick cars can't use them at all, for that reason. With bias-ply tires, if you don't dead-hook, you still have SOME chance of salvaging the pass. With radials, you're done.

And, I have not experienced that. I don't know anybody I race with seeing that. Hardly ever see an automatic car on bias tires anymore. Likely just your car. Might need to go see DeWayne Custer.

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

my car dead hooks every pass! 60 foots low 1.20s to high teens. If you're spinning the tire, fix the car!

x2, although I'm only going 1.40 to 60 foot. Been running radials on this car exclusively for over 20 years save for one set of MT 3056ST, which were deadly in 60 feet and no slower than the radials, but were somehow junk elsewhere.