What to expect - Page 3

LNorton · 09-20-2007, 03:34 PM

Mickey,

The way the weight breaks work now...

A/FIA = A/SA
B/FIA = C/SA
C/FIA = E/SA
... and so on

So a natural B/FIA car will run B/SA-D/SA.

jaf2021 · 09-20-2007, 03:40 PM

I'm with steve polhill. I run about .25 to .30 under my index.So it will be hard on some guys like me sometimes to even get under the index. Maybe NHRA will look at this and maybe help us slower guys
jason ss2021

09-20-2007, 03:44 PM

Ronald,

Thanks , for posting your e-mail to Len...I do think the final vote will be greater than people think... The only guys who want buttons are the button users and I bet there are less than 25% using them today....So, wait until the final votes are counted and you will see how many racers don't want them or electronics in Stock...

* Glad to see they finally dropped the 2 tenths gift they gave years ago, it was misleading to the real indexes....
* The 7.5 + 7.0 classes should keep those guys happy !!!
* E-shifts, are a tough one to call...
* Sticks and auto are a matter of time 2009...
* It would be nice to see a print out of what classes the EFI cars fit into the old stock classes
* Yes, getting rid of buttons is good for stock class...

* Nice first step by NHRA.... thanks, for listening to the racers...

Dave...1033/stock(RV-455)

09-20-2007, 03:52 PM

Whats Wrong With The Current Program? Rule Changes Are Great If You Are The One To Benifit.leave The Classes The Way They Are.got A Button Great,want To Go Deep Great,letjust ****ing Race.what Bull****.

M/sa Joe Mocci

junior barns · 09-20-2007, 04:01 PM

buttons or no buttons, makes no diff to me! BUT if buttons are to stay they should be activated by the FOOT.........................................index es are way too soft.................................the gap between A and B should be closed by .05.................................my 2cents..............................

Bill Grubbs · 09-20-2007, 04:10 PM

I propose that we do away with all Fords. Lets vote. I see that GM and MOPAR combined currently have more than Ford.

Then when all the Fords are gone, I propose that we vote on eliminating all MOPAR cars (and trucks). Lets vote!

Then when that is done and it is all GM now, I propose that we do away with any car having less that 320 cubic inches. Lets vote!

Then when all 305 engine cars are gone, I propose all the rest of the small blocks be eliminated. Lets vote!

With that done It will be a GM Big Block only party. Oops I forgot those pesky 427's I say we get rid of them also. Lets vote!

NHRA is not a democracy it is a not-for-profit coporation (plus it is more like a republic anyway). I had no problem with deep stagers (we run our own race, in our own lane till the stripe), but they were only a small group, so we got rid of them. Does any one get my point? (rhetorical question)

Divide and conquer and we all lose in the end. Only when we stand together can we win.

I say remember the muffler issue! now a non issue, or is it?

Bill Grubbs

P.S. I hope no one took the voting of cars/trucks off the island/track seriously.

Chad Mahlosky · 09-20-2007, 04:45 PM

I would first like to thank Len for the update on possible rule changes for next year. This is a step in the right direction. We run stock for crying out loud. We don't need electronics and two steps, and magic buttons in our stockers. I do run one.....have to do what I have to do to be competitive, but I never really liked the idea at all.

Eshift is about the goofiest thing that I have heard of. Turbo Action says that it is a safety device, that the driver can keep both hands on the wheel. What bull****, have any of you guys lobbying for that ever driven a stick car???? I dropped a great super pro car to come join this party several years ago, and this has been headed in the wrong direction ever since. No electronics is getting this back to the way it should be.

Robert Pare Racing · 09-20-2007, 04:55 PM

Mickey, I'm gonna be on yer bumper....lol..if I can win dialed, maybe I can win heads-up!!!! peace and shoe polish grease.

Yo Ken · 09-20-2007, 05:19 PM

Bob Mulry,

To assure you and others about the Class Racer poll. While no poll is a 100% accurate, we can assure all members that you can only vote once. Also, only active NHRA and IHRA members can vote. The poll clearly shows no consensus to change the current rule. We hope NHRA also uses these numbers in help making a informed decision.

Bunkster · 09-20-2007, 05:25 PM

So, for 2008, it appears that only heads-up races will always require both cars to take a shot at the tree.

Handicap racing will continue to have only the first car leaving to always take a shot at the tree. The second car leaving, will continue to have freebies.

[insert huge sigh and a shaking of the head here] The lunacy and remnants from 50 years ago continues.

09-20-2007, 03:34 PM	#21
LNorton Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: RacerTees.com Posts: 505 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: What to expect Mickey, The way the weight breaks work now... A/FIA = A/SA B/FIA = C/SA C/FIA = E/SA ... and so on So a natural B/FIA car will run B/SA-D/SA. __________________ Lee Norton - N229 STK IHRA H/FIA - NHRA O/SA RacerTees.com

09-20-2007, 03:40 PM	#22
jaf2021 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: selmer,tn Posts: 111 Likes: 13 Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: What to expect I'm with steve polhill. I run about .25 to .30 under my index.So it will be hard on some guys like me sometimes to even get under the index. Maybe NHRA will look at this and maybe help us slower guys jason ss2021

09-20-2007, 03:44 PM	#23
RIBEIRO RACING Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What to expect Ronald, Thanks , for posting your e-mail to Len...I do think the final vote will be greater than people think... The only guys who want buttons are the button users and I bet there are less than 25% using them today....So, wait until the final votes are counted and you will see how many racers don't want them or electronics in Stock... * Glad to see they finally dropped the 2 tenths gift they gave years ago, it was misleading to the real indexes.... * The 7.5 + 7.0 classes should keep those guys happy !!! * E-shifts, are a tough one to call... * Sticks and auto are a matter of time 2009... * It would be nice to see a print out of what classes the EFI cars fit into the old stock classes * Yes, getting rid of buttons is good for stock class... * Nice first step by NHRA.... thanks, for listening to the racers... Dave...1033/stock(RV-455)

09-20-2007, 03:52 PM	#24
stk1424 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What to expect Whats Wrong With The Current Program? Rule Changes Are Great If You Are The One To Benifit.leave The Classes The Way They Are.got A Button Great,want To Go Deep Great,letjust **ing Race.what Bull**. M/sa Joe Mocci

09-20-2007, 04:01 PM	#25
junior barns Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 541 Likes: 11 Liked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: What to expect buttons or no buttons, makes no diff to me! BUT if buttons are to stay they should be activated by the FOOT.........................................index es are way too soft.................................the gap between A and B should be closed by .05.................................my 2cents..............................

09-20-2007, 04:10 PM	#26
Bill Grubbs Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Magnolia, Texas Posts: 416 Likes: 3 Liked 564 Times in 66 Posts	Re: What to expect I propose that we do away with all Fords. Lets vote. I see that GM and MOPAR combined currently have more than Ford. Then when all the Fords are gone, I propose that we vote on eliminating all MOPAR cars (and trucks). Lets vote! Then when that is done and it is all GM now, I propose that we do away with any car having less that 320 cubic inches. Lets vote! Then when all 305 engine cars are gone, I propose all the rest of the small blocks be eliminated. Lets vote! With that done It will be a GM Big Block only party. Oops I forgot those pesky 427's I say we get rid of them also. Lets vote! NHRA is not a democracy it is a not-for-profit coporation (plus it is more like a republic anyway). I had no problem with deep stagers (we run our own race, in our own lane till the stripe), but they were only a small group, so we got rid of them. Does any one get my point? (rhetorical question) Divide and conquer and we all lose in the end. Only when we stand together can we win. I say remember the muffler issue! now a non issue, or is it? Bill Grubbs P.S. I hope no one took the voting of cars/trucks off the island/track seriously. Last edited by Bill Grubbs; 09-20-2007 at 04:12 PM.

09-20-2007, 04:45 PM	#27
Chad Mahlosky Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 83 Likes: 0 Liked 7 Times in 2 Posts	Re: What to expect I would first like to thank Len for the update on possible rule changes for next year. This is a step in the right direction. We run stock for crying out loud. We don't need electronics and two steps, and magic buttons in our stockers. I do run one.....have to do what I have to do to be competitive, but I never really liked the idea at all. Eshift is about the goofiest thing that I have heard of. Turbo Action says that it is a safety device, that the driver can keep both hands on the wheel. What bull****, have any of you guys lobbying for that ever driven a stick car???? I dropped a great super pro car to come join this party several years ago, and this has been headed in the wrong direction ever since. No electronics is getting this back to the way it should be.

09-20-2007, 04:55 PM	#28
Robert Pare Racing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mother Earth Posts: 265 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: What to expect Mickey, I'm gonna be on yer bumper....lol..if I can win dialed, maybe I can win heads-up!!!! peace and shoe polish grease. __________________ Rapare-Racing.com

09-20-2007, 05:19 PM	#29
Yo Ken Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 220 Likes: 13 Liked 587 Times in 35 Posts	Re: What to expect Bob Mulry, To assure you and others about the Class Racer poll. While no poll is a 100% accurate, we can assure all members that you can only vote once. Also, only active NHRA and IHRA members can vote. The poll clearly shows no consensus to change the current rule. We hope NHRA also uses these numbers in help making a informed decision. __________________ Administrator Class Racer.com

09-20-2007, 05:25 PM	#30
Bunkster Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 307 Likes: 0 Liked 43 Times in 10 Posts	Re: What to expect So, for 2008, it appears that only heads-up races will always require both cars to take a shot at the tree. Handicap racing will continue to have only the first car leaving to always take a shot at the tree. The second car leaving, will continue to have freebies. [insert huge sigh and a shaking of the head here] The lunacy and remnants from 50 years ago continues.