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Old 06-10-2022, 02:14 PM   #21
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Default Re: Class pushed back at Indy Nats for Jegs Brackets?

I get so tired of hearing class cars are JUST shoe polish bracket cars, and yes there are heads up runs and class legalities and teardown possibilities, BUT one thing never discussed is the real fear of engine-transmission failures....most bracket racers build for consistency and brag about how many runs they get before freshening up, make a run or two and bar-b-que....some class racers build on the safe side, some are on the ragged edge each run as a component of Performance Class Racing.
Many class racers if not all, carry gaskets, tools and RTV, let alone a spare trans and many an extra head...we don't usually do 2 & Q, too busy running valves: A BIG DIFFERENCE

Two big sources of anxiety, esp at INDY, teardown and will my on-the-edge, no oil bullet survive heads up class
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Old 06-10-2022, 02:53 PM   #22
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I have voiced my opinion with NHRA about the JEGS allstars being at Indy. I personally am not a fan. Indy is such a special event in its own right that it seems that the allstars loses some of its luster. When the event has been held at Chicago in the past, "ALLSTAR SATURDAY" was a real thing. Everyone at the facility knew exactly what a moment that day was. At Indy, the event loses its magnitude due to Indy being Indy.

That being said....JEGS is based in D3 land, therefore it would make sense that the event be held in D3 land. That leaves 3 options: Norwalk (JEGS event at Summit Equipment Raceway, not happening), St.Louis or Indy. Pretty easy decision to why it has ended up at Indy.

We should also keep in mind that the Allstars has only been held in Indy the last 2 years (2020 - 2021) during very compromised schedules at Indy. I am hopeful that extending the schedule back to Wednesday through Monday that Indy can feel more like Indy.

I am hopeful that the Indy schedule (20 lbs of S*** in a 10 lb bag) can end up something like this:
Wednesday - Qualifying
Thursday - Stock Class
Friday - Super Stock Class, Stock Tear down
Saturday - Allstars, SS Tear down

Thats an ideal schedule, but we all know that would always be "subject to change".
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Old 06-10-2022, 04:32 PM   #23
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When are you classy racers gonna realize you are not the show. Until you start running Nitro you are just a field filler. One more thing as long as you put shoe polish on the window you my friend are participating in a dial in type race which is the same as a bracket race. Yes you have class eliminations and heads up runs. ONLY DIFFERENCE. The Jegs Allstars is a great honor and deserves to be run at the biggest race of the year. By the way they do have Stock and Super Stock included in that race. Good Luck to all that go and anybody that makes the effort to go Deserves to be there. Hopefully one day I will see you there The Big Go has always been on my bucket list.
Spoken like a true bracket racer!
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Old 06-10-2022, 06:03 PM   #24
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Why couldn’t the All Stars be held at the fall Charlotte or even fall Vegas race? They get tow money anyway and either would be a venue fitting such a prestigious event.
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Old 06-10-2022, 06:19 PM   #25
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All these negative vibes with the Jeg's All Stars, I wouldn't be surprised if they just cut it out of the budget if they read this website.
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Old 06-10-2022, 07:02 PM   #26
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Not only is the Jegs Allstars NOT just another bracket race it is THE RACE of the season. It's the hardest race to get into and the toughest R1 race you will ever have as you desperately try and turn on the lamp! You wanna win for you, your crew, and most important you wanna win for your team! Sportsman Racers who wish they were in it, line the fence to watch this race like no other and the Jegs folks treat you like you are the show.

Thank You JEGS for continuing to support the Premier Sportsman Event of the season. No matter where it is hosted, I'd love nothing more than to be in it once again someday!

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Old 06-11-2022, 09:03 AM   #27
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All these negative vibes with the Jeg's All Stars, I wouldn't be surprised if they just cut it out of the budget if they read this website.
Its just another shoot out bracket race. Now if there was no breakout like the the old days that would be cool! In fact instead when they're pairing cars in class that are singles, up in class they oughta run that race without a Breakout also! They've just taken all the excitement out of class racing! it's run you what you brung and hope you brung enough.! If you're slow yourA$$ goes home !!

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Its just another shoot out bracket race. Now if there was no breakout like the the old days that would be cool! In fact instead when they're pairing cars in class that are singles, up in class they oughta run that race without a Breakout also! They've just taken all the excitement out of class racing! it's run you what you brung and hope you brung enough.! If you're slow yourA$$ goes home !!
No shoe polish in this Jeg's All Star Final:


JOLIET, Ill. - Results of final, round 3 eliminations in Stock Allstars at the NHRA Mello Yello Drag Racing Series, 30th annual NHRA Jeg's Allstars:

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
10 Robbie Shaw 51 Brett Speer
E3 0.090 10.177 129.13 ****WINNER**** 0.015 10.234 126.30
A/SA Dial: 11.00 (+/-): -0.823 A/SA Dial: 11.00 (+/-): -0.766
Prior rounds:
E2 (J Lamb ) 0.018 10.362 0.042 (K Sepanek ) 0.053 10.355 0.005
E1 (C Plaizier ) 0.033 10.354 0.034 (T Gillespie ) 0.049 10.343 0.023
Qualified: #1 10.129 -0.871 #6 10.570 -0.430
A heads-up race for the final. Shaw has been to one final in this event. This is Speer's first Allstar final.
Speer gets a huge advantage off the line, Shaw starts reeling him in but quickly runs out of race track.
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Old 06-11-2022, 11:24 AM   #29
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No shoe polish in this Jeg's All Star Final:


JOLIET, Ill. - Results of final, round 3 eliminations in Stock Allstars at the NHRA Mello Yello Drag Racing Series, 30th annual NHRA Jeg's Allstars:

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
10 Robbie Shaw 51 Brett Speer
E3 0.090 10.177 129.13 ****WINNER**** 0.015 10.234 126.30
A/SA Dial: 11.00 (+/-): -0.823 A/SA Dial: 11.00 (+/-): -0.766
Prior rounds:
E2 (J Lamb ) 0.018 10.362 0.042 (K Sepanek ) 0.053 10.355 0.005
E1 (C Plaizier ) 0.033 10.354 0.034 (T Gillespie ) 0.049 10.343 0.023
Qualified: #1 10.129 -0.871 #6 10.570 -0.430
A heads-up race for the final. Shaw has been to one final in this event. This is Speer's first Allstar final.
Speer gets a huge advantage off the line, Shaw starts reeling him in but quickly runs out of race track.
Yes yes it's cool when it happens but it's the exception not the rule we just need more of it to keep the tiddlywinks racers running one and two and three under honest. 1 lb weight brakesAnd fewer classes would have more heads up runs. Why do you think NMCA is so popular? Too much Bracket racing is going to kill the category just like they did Pro Stock with the belly button Shinola show LOL

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Old 06-11-2022, 11:42 AM   #30
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Why do you think NMCA is so popular? Too much Bracket racing is going to kill the category just like they did Pro Stock with the belly button Shinola show LOL
Here is a link from their last event which was the SUPERBOWL.This is usually their biggest event.
Doesn't look that popular to me.The classes with the largest car counts are not heads up/no breakout.

https://www.nmcadigital.com/blog/qua...by-fuelab/1824
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