Double up Races - Page 3

B Parker · 10-11-2022, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by James Perrone

Barry it makes sense to run a double but have been told
It’s too much work for Division 1 workers
Will not happen over here

James didn't they say no way roller rockers would ever happen, let alone solid lifters for hydraulics, ect.. About the workers I get it. They need to try and hire more and I know its about money. Not that I want to see an increase in entrance fee's but I'd be willing to pay $10 more entrance fee per race on a double race weekend. I'll save a lot more on fuel than that. Duane you have to deal with weather no matter if it's one race or two. It might make it easier with two because you have more days to fit it all in. I'm sure it would increase car counts and help make it more profitable for the tracks. Maybe don't do it to all the races but at least do most of them. BP

jmcarter · 10-11-2022, 12:00 PM

Would suspect Famosa will have a big turnout this weekend for their double. Has to be a great deal of pent up demand, especially with the Vegas and Pomona early fills. The doubles make a lot of sense with such long tows and high(er) fuel prices in the West. Was a bit surprised Woodburn didn’t get even more for their double.

GTS340 · 10-11-2022, 12:27 PM

We haven't raced in Bakersfield for a divisional for years. I need to remember how to get there. With stock class probably Thursday my guess and the double. It should be fun. The weather looks great. Maybe a little warm at peak temps. A lot of point chases going on.

Paul Haszlauer
7019 C/SA

DG · 10-11-2022, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter

Would suspect Famosa will have a big turnout this weekend for their double. Has to be a great deal of pent up demand, especially with the Vegas and Pomona early fills. The doubles make a lot of sense with such long tows and high(er) fuel prices in the West. Was a bit surprised Woodburn didn’t get even more for their double.

I think Woodburn would have gotten more participation if they had announced it as a double right from the beginning. For a lot of people, we set our race/vacation schedules at the beginning of the year. After that, its hard to adjust.

1347 · 10-11-2022, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by B Parker

James didn't they say no way roller rockers would ever happen, let alone solid lifters for hydraulics, ect.. About the workers I get it. They need to try and hire more and I know its about money. Not that I want to see an increase in entrance fee's but I'd be willing to pay $10 more entrance fee per race on a double race weekend. I'll save a lot more on fuel than that. Duane you have to deal with weather no matter if it's one race or two. It might make it easier with two because you have more days to fit it all in. I'm sure it would increase car counts and help make it more profitable for the tracks. Maybe don't do it to all the races but at least do most of them. BP

Barry, I'm not opposed to doubles, I'm just telling you what some of us have been told can be a problem of running doubles. Hiring more staff sounds like a great idea, but unless you hire people full time or those who are retired, Those with full time jobs may not be able to take off from their full time jobs to work extra days. I also wonder if test and tunes prior to each event would be possible for those same reasons. I dont see Div1 turning into a double divisional format, but that may be a question to whoever may be the new div director for those who want it.

SS3718 · 10-11-2022, 09:19 PM

Double Divisionals, especially with large car counts, are difficult (almost impossible) to complete in 4-days.

As a racer, you better plan to arrive by Wednesday and be committed to stay until Monday.

If 4-day doubles become the norm, I think both races need to be one (1) qualifying run and race in order to complete the races in a reasonable timeframe.

Nick

J.R. Haddad · 10-11-2022, 10:28 PM

If we are going to only have one run and into eliminations, the test and
tune days will be very populated. Given that, they should be reduced
to 50.00, instead of 100.00, as we won't get many runs as a result.

J.R.

Larry Hill · 10-12-2022, 06:12 AM

I think every race should have two Qualifying runs. If you have a problem on Q1 and don’t get in the field one more chance is still available. Sunday’s St Louis race was one and done for qualifying and some good teams had a problem and did not get to race.
The only way we got to race on Sunday was to switch from Stock to Super Stock. We could not run fast enough to qualify in the top 128 in Stock.

The cool track temps in the night may have contributed to the accidents on the track that caused a stoppage of racing.

We had a good time seeing our friends and racing. Let’s do it again

James Perrone · 10-12-2022, 11:05 AM

Barry pay more $$$. Really
Larry you want 2 Guaranteed time runs
Since you have been racing dumbo you have traction issues
Maybe it’s the car
And I want to live as a millionaire
But we live in Nhra world and there trying the best they can
Thank goodness for East Coast stock super stock that’s when I have the most fun
Racing No BS. Full pay back

John W. 1711 · 10-12-2022, 11:16 AM

I like double headers. Tow once race twice.

10-11-2022, 12:00 PM	#22
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,295 Likes: 2,380 Liked 3,174 Times in 971 Posts	Re: Double up Races Would suspect Famosa will have a big turnout this weekend for their double. Has to be a great deal of pent up demand, especially with the Vegas and Pomona early fills. The doubles make a lot of sense with such long tows and high(er) fuel prices in the West. Was a bit surprised Woodburn didn’t get even more for their double. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

10-11-2022, 12:27 PM	#23
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 868 Likes: 270 Liked 1,341 Times in 408 Posts	Re: Double up Races We haven't raced in Bakersfield for a divisional for years. I need to remember how to get there. With stock class probably Thursday my guess and the double. It should be fun. The weather looks great. Maybe a little warm at peak temps. A lot of point chases going on. Paul Haszlauer 7019 C/SA

10-11-2022, 09:19 PM	#26
SS3718 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 129 Likes: 5 Liked 27 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Double up Races Double Divisionals, especially with large car counts, are difficult (almost impossible) to complete in 4-days. As a racer, you better plan to arrive by Wednesday and be committed to stay until Monday. If 4-day doubles become the norm, I think both races need to be one (1) qualifying run and race in order to complete the races in a reasonable timeframe. Nick

10-11-2022, 10:28 PM	#27
J.R. Haddad Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 784 Likes: 936 Liked 1,464 Times in 307 Posts	Re: Double up Races If we are going to only have one run and into eliminations, the test and tune days will be very populated. Given that, they should be reduced to 50.00, instead of 100.00, as we won't get many runs as a result. J.R.

10-12-2022, 06:12 AM	#28
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,633 Likes: 1,928 Liked 10,687 Times in 2,225 Posts	Re: Double up Races I think every race should have two Qualifying runs. If you have a problem on Q1 and don’t get in the field one more chance is still available. Sunday’s St Louis race was one and done for qualifying and some good teams had a problem and did not get to race. The only way we got to race on Sunday was to switch from Stock to Super Stock. We could not run fast enough to qualify in the top 128 in Stock. The cool track temps in the night may have contributed to the accidents on the track that caused a stoppage of racing. We had a good time seeing our friends and racing. Let’s do it again __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

10-12-2022, 11:05 AM	#29
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,676 Likes: 3,373 Liked 1,816 Times in 425 Posts	Re: Double up Races Barry pay more $$$. Really Larry you want 2 Guaranteed time runs Since you have been racing dumbo you have traction issues Maybe it’s the car And I want to live as a millionaire But we live in Nhra world and there trying the best they can Thank goodness for East Coast stock super stock that’s when I have the most fun Racing No BS. Full pay back __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

10-12-2022, 11:16 AM	#30
John W. 1711 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 221 Likes: 1,599 Liked 338 Times in 108 Posts	Re: Double up Races I like double headers. Tow once race twice.