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Old 01-25-2024, 12:20 PM   #1
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Don, we do compete at the BIG $ bracket races, both locally and the Flings and I can tell you without doubt that no one that competes at these events cares if/what illegal devices maybe in use by some racers and the proof is that these races are typically sold out in less than 3 minutes! So all this talk about tree readers, down track position indicators, matty box, etc. is nothing but internet forum noise largely posted by racers like yourself that don't compete at these races. That said, running dead on, cutting .00x lights and taking a few thousands stripe is commonplace and no big deal in the year 2024.

That said, I do believe that ARC modules are being used by some with the Grid.

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Old 01-25-2024, 02:09 PM   #2
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Yes, stop worrying about what you think your competitors might be doing and focus on your program and what you need to improve to be more competitive. Unless your car can run dead on every pass, you can put together .015 packages at will and close up the stripe to .003 everytime, you need to focus on improving your program!

That said, IF a tree reader exists, the racer(s) using it is competing in Big $ bracket racing not stock/super stock.

do you really try be be a real horrible person. Go back into you hole

i have known Don for over 20 years. he is a honorable person and if he asked for help most of us would drop what we are doing and rush to help
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Old 01-25-2024, 02:24 PM   #3
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Default Re: Ways to check on the use of illegal devices

so your feelings are hurt by my reply to Don, but his feelings aren't.

At least be honest, your feeble comments have nothing to do with my reply to Don and everything to do with the fact that you don't like that I don't race stock/super stock yet I'm allowed to opine on this forum.

That said, this thread nor my reply is about Don's honor.

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Old 01-25-2024, 03:50 PM   #4
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so your feelings are hurt by my reply to Don, but his feelings aren't.

At least be honest, your feeble comments have nothing to do with my reply to Don and everything to do with the fact that you don't like that I don't race stock/super stock yet I'm allowed to opine on this forum.

That said, this thread nor my reply is about Don's honor.
you really are a horse's backend. every statement you make is condescending. you are so full of yourself, that you do not realize this.

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Old 01-25-2024, 07:17 PM   #5
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The thought occured to me that just maybe there are many ways to check on racers who are using illegal devises to have a advantge of other racers I will start first have a camera Zoom into the drivers compartment showing the tree plus the driver to see when the release the button ,any other suggestions ??
The absolute best way to catch someone who is cheating is to put up the money for an inspection. Of course you should provide tech with as detailed information as you can. I believe a visual inspection is in the neighborhood of $200-$300.

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Old 01-26-2024, 09:12 PM   #6
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The absolute best way to catch someone who is cheating is to put up the money for an inspection. Of course you should provide tech with as detailed information as you can. I believe a visual inspection is in the neighborhood of $200-$300.

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Bill part of the problem is you're the bad guy or girl if you put up money for an inspection. Look at Indy last year. I know it sucked for the guys in the Vette but the person that put up the money was the bad guy. What did he do wrong? Isn't Indy the one race NHRA have the tec guys to do a full inspection. They need to change the schedule, so Stock and Super Stock have that day off like just a few years ago.

Are there anyone that you look at and have some questions about or you know are in the Black area of the rules. Would you put up the money if you just thought someone was not right? I'm not trying to bust your balls but most of us have questions about a few cars. I know a few that I would bet dollars to donuts they won't make it threw a complete inspection. I'll even go further. At Columbus in 2022 at the Sports Nationals there was a guy running a LT1 Camaro in B/SA. Had his hood up in the stagging lanes. Right on top of his throttle body was the BBK name plate. He was running an aftermarket one. I did say something to him. I was in A and I did tell him if I was running B I would let tec know. And that he needed to change it. I really don't think he knew. But he didn't open his hood in the stagging lanes for the rest of the race.

It all comes back to INTEGRITY. Some have it and others don't. BP

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Old 01-27-2024, 08:34 AM   #7
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It all comes back to INTEGRITY. BP
Come on Barry! You can trust "us"! The 21St Century NHRA Tech Dept. does!
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Old 01-27-2024, 12:14 PM   #8
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Being the Bad Guy is better that being the whiner
There are rules for you conspiracy theorists
So Nut Up and Buck$$$ up
Because nobody is watching closely
Barry I remember when I was in tear down at Indy 2006
You said James you gonna be ok because you have a Bub motor
The other 2 guys are going way faster than most in there class and are gonna get bounced. Bingo you where correct
Barry knows
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