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ive been saying for years, when will electronics be looked at? problem is who actually knows what to look for? now with all these racepacs, sensors,driveshaft speed sensors, what do you protest? also think they should eliminate allowing cell phones recording directly behind racecars on the starting line. just my .002 Tim Stickles
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Who is the tech director that is blessing this?
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I just investigated many others (they were not that hard to find...just looked at lots of cars in the 2 classes as much as I could find, saw there was a very large contingent using them, looked at the rule book completely and lo and behold it was legal all along, tried it first in brackets to see if there was actually a competitive advantage (at my speed at the stripe and over the distance vs time there really wasn't...less than the math showed and a lot less than I originally calculated...in the thousandths, not hundredths, just a more consistent finish by turning off the clocks nearly at same place in each run was less dependent on attitude of the front end higher or lower at the stripe as I was an inch or 2 higher if in it, an inch or 2 lower if out of it or on the brakes and could actually run much faster if I dipped the nose hard without it).
I made mine very blatant and visible (which is what I see raising the ire here while many others out there are not so visible, but still there. Was not looking for a competitive advantage, just consistency with the body style I am using (transverse engine behind the spindle, and the 2 different lower hanging air dams that were triggering the finish line beam at different rates and times based on front end attitude), and availed myself of the existing ruleset allowance at the same time making my chosen legal solution quite evident to other competitors. If it is new to you...then you are missing many others. It makes the track no shorter than I can make the track myself in 2 different ways and distances just by using my right and/or left foot in combination or separately (depending on when I time my last move to lift or brake at the line or stay dead in it). It actually takes away those options. I may just want those other options back now. With it there, a competitor knows what part of my car will reach that beam at 1320'...without it there neither one of us knows...could be front air dam, could be the lower air dam under radiator or the front of the tire all depending on the attitude of the front of the car and the last second stripe move decision I make. It is just 1 of those cars that sits 1" above that 6" high finish line beam at natural massive speed of a whole 75 mph at the finish line. The recent string of quite good light breakouts that I am recently experiencing has convinced me that it may be more of a competitive disadvantage than I calculated, so thanks for making me think about it as much as you have. It was just safer for all concerned that I use the brake pedal less when the guy in the opposing lane is side-by-side in the lights at 137-147 mph...but it has cost me some good win lights I think after a deep dive on breakouts (some close some far).
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Personally I did not think it was blinders they were looking for at LODRS 7-4. Looked underhood and in car at my shifter. That Q1 there were more than 25 drivers during Q1 alone that had lights of -.025 - .025....buttons or the like was my guess. I did not ask.
The cream of the crop from across the country was there due to the 3 west coast Nats swing, from last year's world champ to many past world Champs and some of the best light cutters all the divisions have to offer. So, the lights being very close was not a surprise but a cursory glance was pretty much in order there. Ant look at the Q sheets, Elim. Sheets for that double said tight tree cutting take a gander and see what you just might see. My foot braking light aids are my tire pressure guage and that wonderful Petro coffee first thing in the morning and Pepsi/Dr. Pepper in the afternoon, and nothing but me and that beautiful bright tree in the darkness after sunset. I just love the bright lights of Vegas after dark sets in. Nothing in the world like it, or as my wife says...."You are in your element!" Me, the bright tree, the lit track and zero distractions beyond. But, I wake up at sunset. Catch me in the morning as at my age just waking up enough to race is a science experiment.
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I would venture to say, it's going to travel; not everything stays in Vegas.
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You are a wise man 1700. I am travelling next to Div. 4, possibly 6 and beyond, it will be with me, maybe on at times, maybe off (as long as the published ruleset remains written the same), mine is easy to remove, and easy to test differences now. The car changed with
recent upgrades. And I have yet to test it with it off. Innovation within the published ruleset is always fun. And it is usually encouraged. Don't hate me because I experiment as I have a lot against me already making a slow car work in the category. I have fully embraced slow just to watch and compete against the really fast. Nothing gets my blood running in these veins better and faster than a really fast car in the other lane (from the wheels up leave in the rear view), and at the stripe! I live for it today...Q passes are boring in comparison for this bracket racer at heart. I would dial in on Q passes if they would let us, just to have a lot more fun.
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My head combustion chambers are avg. 50.5 cc's each instead of the 48.0 min cc's (first head milling), leaving legal room for future improvement. That is (2.5 cc x 4), total 10 cc's more room for air, lower c.r....does that hurt or help me? All I know is when it comes off the test stand it will pass. (We cc'd that head twice back here after I paid add'l. for it to be cc'd. by the head work masters in Peachtree, GA that did the machine work), Not pushing any envelopes intentionally, just so if ever torn down it will be found nothing but legal. All this controversy over nothing but a legal protrusion under the car (not attached in any way to the body, but the frame underhood). If I take the blade off, you will be studying the 3 other items between bumper tip and tire under there and really will not know which target to go for in the future. The electronics is a definite (having just tested at the spring Fling I know it is is definitely not a footbraker's world by any stretch of the imagination these days), yes I won a round .002, lost a round that we both were .017, fired off a whole host of .030-.037's that were winners and losers...But the amount of perfect, .00x to teens fired off by most made it a test only of the new ecu system and a pure really expensive bucket list item for me. Those electronics allowed makes heroes out of usual zeroes and usual heroes even better. I went some rounds, and visited the buyback window too...I simply did not belong, but I also had a blast .002 and a winslip footbraking against that kind of company in a slowest than ever Stocker is flat out fun if you flat out love bracket racing! Am I competitive over the 8 or more rounds it takes to win the yuuuuge bigly check?...hell no unless the drag racing angels are on your shoulder all day and all night long...and right as darkness set in the first night (just as it was getting to my personal best part if the day, they shut it all off as the track was too cold to run the fast cars), ruining my 3rd round best chance to move on, transferring it to an even earlier AM continuation and combining 2 30K races into a 60K giving me and all others 1 less though 1 twice as big chance to shine. (Paid in advance to race 3 x 30K, actually raced 1 30K, and a 60K due to weather). No crying there, we were having too much fun. They guy that ended my very first Fling went trip zip and ⁸/thou total pkg on me. I was racing him to the last fraction o$ an inch, not knowing that the millisecond he left and as I was watching his green come on that my .032 was *unless he made a gigantic error or mistake in the next 660' I was pretty much mathematically already eliminated. I heard it on the radio just after his win light came on...deflation was instant, but cruised the pits and found him and helped him celebrate his first ever trip zip 8thou pkg in a 60K race. I then packed up and moved on the morning of the Million I was not wastsing another 2K or more on. 1 bucket list race checked off...at least until I build a purpose built electronics laden down bracket car with everything the modern world of technology has to offer in it at least. (And I mean everything Matt Biondo and others have to offer)...because while we class racers keep them dialing honest, they have all the power adders and electronic gizmos and gadgets you can imagine in those rocketships. That playing field is so tilted it will stand you on your head. Is there some of that in our category? My money says there may be a little bit, but on the average, the lights say nowhere near it. And for those that do..it is only a matter of time before spot checks and a deeper look will catch it. It just won't be me, as I really enjoy doing things the harder more challenging way. I am nowhere near as good as I once was, but I am as good once or twice as I ever was...now just to string a few more rounds together at one time...luck has to also come for a ride. You may see me beam breaker on or off, we shall see...but it is a legal aid as long as 4.5 Gen. Regs and 11A points to 4.5. I did not write the rules just abiding by the publication of them as they stand right now, to my benefit or not...thinking more not to my benefit lately...but, if you are looking at my front bumper in the lanes instead of the top end charge, you may just have missed that .00x to teens I just dropped on you 5-6 seconds ago. Ahhh, it could have been a .030-.089, depends on who it is and how you look like you feel that day. (It could also have been red if I allow pure muscle memory to take over and just did not get my front tire pressure and coffee/soda combo just right). John Irving is right on correct, I will win more w/ .030's than reds by thousandths in a very slow car...must have a fighting chance leaving first. Just in my blood to attempt to steal the tree if I can. Pack it up in the hatchback if I could. Not afraid of a redeye though, the chances we take. You keep looking under my bumper.
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MJ, You asked for that one ... LOL
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