2008 Cobra Jets belong in Stock - Page 4

Rusty Gillis · 02-10-2009, 04:41 PM

In Dec 1967 Ford build 50 428 Mustangs and than in April 1968 started building them as a regular production option. I hope Ford does the same this time and make it a regular production option.

Evan Smith · 02-10-2009, 04:45 PM

Junior,

All 50 CJ cars (and yes all 50 were built and accounted for as I have photos of nearly all of them being assembled) were available to the public and sold through Ford dealerships. If you had the loot in your suit and got your order in you got one.

Plus, Ford Racing Performance Parts will be offering ALL the necessary parts so anyone can built their own CJ using either a FRPP body-in-white, or any 2005-2009 Mustang body.

Evan

Ed Fernandez · 02-10-2009, 05:20 PM

Evan;
Why was the Mustang that Ford released to you was not allowed to run Stock but the new cars are?
Not busting your balls Just curious why?
And how is the car coming along?
Ed

Superfan1 · 02-10-2009, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Evan;
Why was the Mustang that Ford released to you was not allowed to run Stock but the new cars are?
Not busting your balls Just curious why?
And how is the car coming along?
Ed

Ed, Evan will chime in if I am wrong, but I believe the reason he can't run Stock is because he is building a Shelby GT500 Mustang, which was factory and NHRA rated at 500hp in 2007 and has a weight break of 6.94 in the Classification guide. AA/S is 7.50 - 7.99, but SS/B is 6.50 - 6.99.
Bill Seabrooks - superfan1

junior barns · 02-10-2009, 05:36 PM

Sooooooooooo I guess these engines are'nt available from the factory in a car to the public!! Sounds like Ford along with NHRA done an (end around) to skirt the rules. Build your own engine out of a parts book run NHRA!!

Just does'nt seem right!!

Ed Fernandez · 02-10-2009, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1

Ed, Evan will chime in if I am wrong, but I believe the reason he can't run Stock is because he is building a Shelby GT500 Mustang, which was factory and NHRA rated at 500hp in 2007 and has a weight break of 6.94 in the Classification guide. AA/S is 7.50 - 7.99, but SS/B is 6.50 - 6.99.
Bill Seabrooks - superfan1

Okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.If one of the CJ drivers gets stupid or careless and gets enough HP on the combo
and they factor out to less than 7.50 then what does NHRA do, after rolling their tongues back into their mouth?

Ed F.

Could someone post the comparative engine specs for all three engines?

John Quinn · 02-10-2009, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junior barns

Sooooooooooo I guess these engines are'nt available from the factory in a car to the public!! Sounds like Ford along with NHRA done an (end around) to skirt the rules. Build your own engine out of a parts book run NHRA!!

Just does'nt seem right!!

The stocker engine was available to the public in the Cobra Jet. Evan does not have a Cobra Jet, he has a Shelby GT500 which has a different engine (also available to the public). Is that so hard to understand?

John Quinn · 02-10-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.If one of the CJ drivers gets stupid or careless and gets enough HP on the combo
and they factor out to less than 7.50 then what does NHRA do, after rolling their tongues back into their mouth?

Ed F.

They probably will do whatever they want to do, as usual.

David Ley · 02-10-2009, 05:59 PM

Bill - Superfan1 & Ed,
Evan's car can run AA/S but would he have to add the weight to make AA/S and would have to weigh 3920. Not a practical race weight for AA/S.

Tim Kish · 02-10-2009, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junior barns

Sooooooooooo I guess these engines are'nt available from the factory in a car to the public!! Sounds like Ford along with NHRA done an (end around) to skirt the rules. Build your own engine out of a parts book run NHRA!!

Just does'nt seem right!!

The Magnum Wedge planned for the Challenger Drag Pak isn't available in any production Challenger either (I know Challengers are not in the rulebook yet, Mustangs didn't make the book until the week the first production ones were built). Up until the Challenger Drag Pak, the Magnum 360 was a truck engine (no car applications). This one opens some options for GT super stockers!! Also look at the planned intake and TB on the Challenger - nothing you'll see in a factory street car but if it is part of the package being built and approved by NHRA then it is legal. Heck they haven't even offered the Magnum 360 engine in a few years in any vehicle.

Its the mid-late 60's all over again - stop bitchin and embrace it while it lasts.....

02-10-2009, 04:41 PM	#31
Rusty Gillis Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 260 Likes: 21 Liked 87 Times in 19 Posts	Re: 2008 Cobra Jets belong in Stock In Dec 1967 Ford build 50 428 Mustangs and than in April 1968 started building them as a regular production option. I hope Ford does the same this time and make it a regular production option. __________________ Rusty Gillis Former NHRA SS/FA and SS/GA record holder

02-10-2009, 04:45 PM	#32
Evan Smith Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tampa Posts: 400 Likes: 7 Liked 115 Times in 5 Posts	Re: 2008 Cobra Jets belong in Stock Junior, All 50 CJ cars (and yes all 50 were built and accounted for as I have photos of nearly all of them being assembled) were available to the public and sold through Ford dealerships. If you had the loot in your suit and got your order in you got one. Plus, Ford Racing Performance Parts will be offering ALL the necessary parts so anyone can built their own CJ using either a FRPP body-in-white, or any 2005-2009 Mustang body. Evan __________________ Evan Smith 1798 STK

02-10-2009, 05:20 PM	#33
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: 2008 Cobra Jets belong in Stock Evan; Why was the Mustang that Ford released to you was not allowed to run Stock but the new cars are? Not busting your balls Just curious why? And how is the car coming along? Ed __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

02-10-2009, 05:36 PM	#35
junior barns Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 541 Likes: 11 Liked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: 2008 Cobra Jets belong in Stock Sooooooooooo I guess these engines are'nt available from the factory in a car to the public!! Sounds like Ford along with NHRA done an (end around) to skirt the rules. Build your own engine out of a parts book run NHRA!! Just does'nt seem right!!

02-10-2009, 05:59 PM	#39
David Ley Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: South Jersey Posts: 123 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2008 Cobra Jets belong in Stock Bill - Superfan1 & Ed, Evan's car can run AA/S but would he have to add the weight to make AA/S and would have to weigh 3920. Not a practical race weight for AA/S. __________________ Dave Ley NHRA TECH Last edited by David Ley; 02-10-2009 at 06:11 PM.