We need a new "instant" trigger!

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Billy, if a certain killer car starts out at about 400# heavy, even 7% is not going to do the job.

Isn't that where the scales come in?The guys that run their cars 3-400# heavy aren't looking to get air under the car.BTW I never run my car more than 40# over.The whole rules system regarding the AHFS needs an overhaul,no matter who's feelings get hurt.If mine do in the process I think I can get over it.

Ed F.

[Billy Nees]

Ed, weren't we told a story in Fla. about a certain D2 racer who was told by a certain smily faced D2 employee that he had to remove weight from his car before his next qualifying run?

[Billy Nees]

Jack, I've always considered you a mentor and a friend and you can always count on two things from me, we can always agree to disagree and I will never feel sorry for you.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ed, weren't we told a story in Fla. about a certain D2 racer who was told by a certain smily faced D2 employee that he had to remove weight from his car before his next qualifying run?

Correct Billy,but I bet that's the exception not the rule.

Ed

[Blingmaster]

Billy You know i am a little older than some on this post so I have seen the changes I have come to the conclusion that this whole index thing is a joke at best......What happened to the performance based national records that were held in high esteem..GONE...In stead of index how about .50 over national records as index...any current national record holder gains instant entry into national events no grading points needed. no adjustment for altitude tracks the record is the index....all national record holders are exempt from hp hits....let the games begin.....Daryl

[Blingmaster]

Another cenario If like class cars compete say for class at indy no breakout but if they run under national record they become new record holder and have to tear down...even at a divisional meet they should seperate the cheaters form the legal cars...no sandbagging either make anational record mean something again.......D

[Bub Whitaker]

Originally Posted by Blingmaster

Billy You know i am a little older than some on this post so I have seen the changes I have come to the conclusion that this whole index thing is a joke at best......What happened to the performance based national records that were held in high esteem..GONE...In stead of index how about .50 over national records as index...any current national record holder gains instant entry into national events no grading points needed. no adjustment for altitude tracks the record is the index....all national record holders are exempt from hp hits....let the games begin.....Daryl

Thats how I raced MP back in te 70's, worked then... how bout they add weight to the combo thats too far under.. like the trigger is 115 under for Nat event so if the guy is 145 under, about 300 lbs should get him there...gravity is constant

[Bub Whitaker]

Originally Posted by Blingmaster

Another cenario If like class cars compete say for class at indy no breakout but if they run under national record they become new record holder and have to tear down...even at a divisional meet they should seperate the cheaters form the legal cars...no sandbagging either make anational record mean something again.......D

That works too

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Isn't that where the scales come in?The guys that run their cars 3-400# heavy aren't looking to get air under the car.

Seems pretty simple to me.... weight stickers should note the class minimum AND the class MAXIMUM (ie., min weight for the next heavier class.) If your car weighs enough for the next heavier class, you should have to run it in that class.

Next problem...?

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Seems pretty simple to me.... weight stickers should note the class minimum AND the class MAXIMUM (ie., min weight for the next heavier class.) If your car weighs enough for the next heavier class, you should have to run it in that class.

Next problem...?

Y'all are missing the point. Bob Shaw built that car, knowing it was going to be real heavy for "U". He can't run V anyway.It's a V8 .
I'm sure he doesn't have a weight box either. What do you want to tell him? He can't race?
If the car is 400 heavy with no ballast , the hp % is irrelevant, or atleast off the charts.