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Old 06-14-2009, 08:19 AM   #1
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Default What's wrong with you folks?

Friendly sanctioning origination, great track. Why such an embarrassing turn out?

I am just a Super Stock wannabe that can’t get an engine together, what’s your excuse?

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1 4689 G/SA Paula Cotten, Broken Arrow OK, '73 Duster 11.300 12.30 -1.000
2 4688 H/SA Mike Cotten, Broken Arrow OK, '73 Duster 11.480 12.45 -0.970
3 5545 B/SA Gary Stinnett, Emporia KS, '69 Camaro 10.603 11.55 -0.947
4 4491 C/SA Tony Wood, Tulsa OK, '68 Chevelle 10.822 11.70 -0.878
5 4153 I/SA Will Carrell, Ardmore OK, '69 Chevelle 12.088 12.60 -0.512
6 4191 F/SA Ed O'Brien, Stillwater OK, '71 Gran Sport 12.025 12.15 -0.125

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1 5445 SS/KA Allan Patterson, Augusta KS, '66 Nova 10.400 11.55 -1.150
2 5517 GT/CA Justin Jenkins, Beatrice NE, '09 Cobalt 9.619 10.70 -1.081
3 420 GT/GA Bryan Chaney, Claremore OK, '92 Camaro 10.139 11.20 -1.061
4 5270 SS/K Tim Nicholson, Concordia KS, '66 Nova 10.278 11.30 -1.022
5 4156 SS/JA Ed Wright, Tulsa OK, '96 Trans Am 10.315 11.30 -0.985
6 571 GT/CA Jason Tinberg, Shawnee KS, '05 Cavalier 9.760 10.70 -0.940
7 55 SS/HA Scott Wagner, Shawnee KS, '68 Camaro 10.245 10.90 -0.655
8 5016 GT/DA Michael Compton, Neosha MO, '90 Camaro 10.235 10.80 -0.565
9 4477 SS/N James Lee, Tulsa OK, '55 Chevy 11.718 12.25 -0.532
10 4563 GT/FA Vic Penrod, Walters OK, '95 Camaro 10.645 11.10 -0.455
11 4701 GT/HA Jason Stoll, Frederick OK, '72 Nova 10.996 11.35 -0.354
12 4011 SS/CA Al Tibbs, Claremore OK, '69 Camaro 10.265 10.35 -0.085
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Old 06-14-2009, 08:58 AM   #2
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Nevermind the fact that it was a 2 day national event. NO THURSDAY TECH, NO FRIDAY TECH if you dont want to. Roll in Saturday morning qualify and race on Sunday what else could a racer want. I went to a S SS combo yesterday had to work 3 hours before going on the car but still wanted to support class racing on a local level. It was a low turnout but 5 weeks out of 6 is tough for alot of people.
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:43 AM   #3
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Last Nationals event I went to at this track the second round of Stock was at 1:00 AM and the finals wasn't until 4:00 AM. Also the winner in stock was dialing nearly a half second off his normal dial because the track was so slick.

This wasn't my idea of fun.

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Old 06-14-2009, 10:00 AM   #4
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I guess this "win and your in tournament" is really bringing out the racers!
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Old 06-14-2009, 10:29 AM   #5
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Actually Car counts for the sportsman is only down 6 cars from last years race. Thats not too bad considering the economy we are in. I had originally planned on going to this race then head south to Texas for the div and sportsnationals next week. The reason I did not was Rockingham rescheduled for next week and it's only 45 miles from here.
I think IHRA is on to something with the 2 day national events.
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Old 06-14-2009, 10:34 AM   #6
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In the past you had some of the so called "HITTERS" in IHRA that would flock to these low car count races to get some easy points. Without a national points system thats not the case anymore. Someone posted on another thread that Englishtown had mainly Division 1 cars there this year and the Nationals look like they were becoming more regionalized. This could be the case with the IHRA events in Dallas and Tulsa. Before you start throwing Rocks at a sanctioned event look at all the factors involved.
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Old 06-14-2009, 01:54 PM   #7
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Last Nationals event I went to at this track the second round of Stock was at 1:00 AM and the finals wasn't until 4:00 AM. Also the winner in stock was dialing nearly a half second off his normal dial because the track was so slick.
That's odd. I interviewed the winner last year, and he didn't mention anything about the track being slick. He did mention that the air was almost 4,300' DA, though. He was indeed dialed slower than his qualifying run... hardly unusual.

I made the 21hr trip to Tulsa two years ago. I loved the facility, and had no traction problems at all. The air was thicker than mud that year, too, so we were all slow. We had a ton of rain leading up to and during the event, but everyone did a great job to get the event in. If it were 10hrs closer, and I'd go.

I doubt anybody thinks that a 4AM finish time is anywhere near standard-issue. That'd be like saying "I'm never going to the Keystones again - they finished the race on WEDNESDAY!" Bad circumstances, and you make the best of it.
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Old 06-14-2009, 02:46 PM   #8
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Just add my name to the list not there...but I was a wannabe.
It's just a sign of the times. Hard economy, fuel prices going up, weather issues. I don't think IHRA,NHRA,ZHRA or NobodyHRA could change those facts. Why all the negativism?
I was planning on being there but my tow truck spit a head gasket on the way home from the race at Memphis (only race I've made in 2 1/2 years) & I've been a little under the (health) weather, lately. The economy dictates I spend my time at the shop working instead of off racing. If I had been ready the weather forecast would have been an issue. We have had a cold front stalled on Oklahoma, Texas & Arkansas for over a week now. Anything could happen with those type weather systems. I've had to do my yard work in stages, between storms & showers & heat. It's not the track, IHRA, or their programs that kept me from being there.
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Old 06-15-2009, 06:22 AM   #9
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Don't need an excuse, as is typical of most IHRA races West of the Miss. poor Class turn outs. I saw there were only 19 T/S cars. IHRA has almost always had poor car counts when they go West, probably because historically they've been an East coast org. I'm not really sure why they continue to try to run these races out of their neighborhood. I'd like for it to work for them but I don't see it happening especially with the economic climate we're in. Oh yeah I believe there were only 12 H/R cars also, so don't point the finger at Stock Super Stock guys for not carrying them. It really doesn't make sense to make the trip out there when there's plenty of N & I races within a 5 hour tow. Also with the contengencies WAY down you can go run a race like the Buckeye S/SS combo's and win about the same money. Joe
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Old 06-14-2009, 02:11 PM   #10
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Friendly sanctioning origination, great track. Why such an embarrassing turn out?
I was wondering how many cars were running in the ET classes? There were only 24 prepay and they still put the race on after saying there had to be 64 early entries. And thats both Box and No Box.
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