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Old 01-18-2010, 11:46 PM   #31
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Default Re: Clutchless trans

For the record I would rather not have any more gadgets. However, the toothpaste is already out of the tube because the automatics already have them and I would like to think it is a reasonable request to have a more equitable way of competing for a good light. On that note, is there anyone, I mean anyone who would argue that having an adjustable button release is not an advantage? It seems like more of a Nintendo game instead of driving to me, but hey they are allowed to do it, so why would they show up to a gun fight with a knife? NHRA allows me a ported head and no matter how much of a purist I may or may not be, I have to be able to compete so I have ported heads. Sorry, that's the way it goes sometimes.

In fact, I totally understand the notion of a button release for the clutch being adverse to someone's way of thinking, but how would those people feel about making the automatic racers put their release button on the brake pedal linkage? Can you imagine the phone calls to Glendora over that one.

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Old 01-19-2010, 12:12 AM   #32
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Right now the 66 Chevy II is rated at 299hp stick /307hp auto for the 327. ed
IF the Sticks and Automatics were to be combined,would the horsepower factors be rated the SAME,or would there still be different ratings depending on transmission type for the same engine?
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:29 AM   #33
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IF the Sticks and Automatics were to be combined,would the horsepower factors be rated the SAME,or would there still be different ratings depending on transmission type for the same engine?

Let's see.
In the 327 with a 299 stick 307 auto factor in SS/H would require the H car to add 76 lbs and get a .10 back on the index. Pretty close.

My combo:
350 with a 314 stick 327 auto factor in GT/A would require me to add 104 lbs to get a tenth back on the index. A little rough for me with a 2700 lb car ,but pretty close again. It's not a deal breaker for me at least.

Just thinking out loud here but maybe it's worth considering identifying the combos with a difference between the stick and auto factor and then meeting in the middle to consolidate the classes and see where we are. Also it will give the auto racers who have been hit hard by the AHFS a little relief while we see what happens.

So the guy with the 327 auto removes 38 lbs and the stick guy adds 38lbs and we go racing with the same index. I does not sound terrible or inequitable so far.

Oh yeah. Not totally wild about the clutchless trans. I would do it if I have to but I would rather consolidate the classes.

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Old 01-19-2010, 11:21 AM   #34
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I don't agree with somethings the auto get to use, but there is nothing that can be done. it's been that way for along time. I choose to run a stick because my dad ran a stick car his whole life. I was raised on it. I'm good friends with alot of auto guys and I ask them after you let go of the button what do you after that. It's just alot more fun IMO to drive a stick car.
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Old 01-19-2010, 08:30 PM   #35
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I don't agree with somethings the auto get to use, but there is nothing that can be done. it's been that way for along time. I choose to run a stick because my dad ran a stick car his whole life. I was raised on it. I'm good friends with alot of auto guys and I ask them after you let go of the button what do you after that. It's just alot more fun IMO to drive a stick car.

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