The baddest GTDA in the country! - Page 4

race watcher · 07-06-2010, 11:10 AM

And Hatari isn't low key?

PONTIAC'S REVENGE · 07-06-2010, 02:30 PM

I think both cars are wicked fast. That matchup will be won on the tree at Indy, I bet. Jerry had a good light .027 but Peter is amazing .004. I wish I could have been there to see that one. I'm glad they lowered the indexes so we could see some of these battles again. Awesome matchup very

Also Dave, Phil and I will go back to cast iron heads; if you go back to cast iron crank and rods with stock bearing sizes.

Everyone has advantages with OEM stuff including you. My engine still has OEM Block and crank. I was even told by your engine builder that most times the aluminun heads "are not worth the extra hp you get" fyi

Incidently, I was at Bischoff's when Phil's motor was being built. Phil went to great lengths to make sure it was very legal. Just in case that was the implication. Isn't Super Stock

!!

Stacy

WheelsUp · 07-06-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PONTIAC'S REVENGE

I think both cars are wicked fast. That matchup will be won on the tree at Indy, I bet. Jerry had a good light .027 but Peter is amazing .004. I wish I could have been there to see that one. I'm glad they lowered the indexes so we could see some of these battles again. Awesome matchup very

Also Dave, Phil and I will go back to cast iron heads; if you go back to cast iron crank and rods with stock bearing sizes.

Everyone has advantages with OEM stuff including you. My engine still has OEM Block and crank. I was even told by your engine builder that most times the aluminun heads "are not worth the extra hp you get" fyi

Incidently, I was at Bischoff's when Phil's motor was being built. It's very legal. Just in case that was the implication. Isn't Super Stock

!!

Stacy

Good reading, will watch this closely at Indy.

WheelsUp · 07-06-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe DeMarzo

Why is it that when someone loses a heads up race their good motor was not in car or they were in bracket mode and protecting the combination? Wasn't there a money bet last year about the same class and does anyone remember the results?

Oh yea....I missed the tune up.

Joe you do not think Jerry's run at Charlotte, was as fast as his car would go, do you?

Joe DeMarzo · 07-06-2010, 02:55 PM

Wheels up, I have no idea if he was all out that day but was Hatari all out that day or just enough to win? My point is that when some racers get beat they have tons of excuses.

If you are in eliminations with the new index's why hide it, he had room based on both racers et. I would love for everyone to race it b*lls to wall. When I get beat heads up the other guy was better that day unless its Jim Marshall who I can not nor can anyone run when he lets its lose. Willl another racer come up with another reason they did not win at Indy and say they were faster than Hatari and Jerry?

Fastest car on the same track same day in eliminations settles it.

Why would Jerry not run it out during eliminations? Did he have another .14 left before he was hit automatically? I have no clue......but he was flagged anyway for going -1.007 under.

By the by I never heard Jerry complain or make excuses, he is a great racer and tuner as are many others.

What class was Iacono in when this came up last year?

stefan callender · 07-06-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WheelsUp

Joe you do not think Jerry's run at Charlotte, was as fast as his car would go, do you?

Who give a crap?? When those crate motor Fords get out there they are gonna blow all those combos away..

Dave Tincher · 07-06-2010, 05:12 PM

Stacey,
You guys need to get a set of cast heads going! Nothing but stock cranks and rod sizes here. I know what the difference is between the Edelbrock heads and the factory Pontiac heads, you not fooling anybody. The cast gm heads are better than the alluminum OEM gm heads I will agree with that. But the edelbrock and Pontiacs, thats different. Hats off to you guys for getting NHRA to do that for you, but you know its Bogus. Just because I said the Indy teardown thing why do you assume I am accusing anyone of cheating?? I was asked for my opinion so I gave it. And thats what it is my OPINION.. I dont expect you to like it. I still think JS has the Baddest D car....

I agree with Stefen.. The fords are going to kick all of our ***'s from GT/AA to FA anyway

race watcher · 07-06-2010, 05:19 PM

It will not be all out during class. If a heads up during the eliminator happens you will get see who has what.

WheelsUp · 07-06-2010, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Tincher

Stacey,
You guys need to get a set of cast heads going! Nothing but stock cranks and rod sizes here. I know what the difference is between the Edelbrock heads and the factory Pontiac heads, you not fooling anybody. The cast gm heads are better than the alluminum OEM gm heads I will agree with that. But the edelbrock and Pontiacs, thats different. Hats off to you guys for getting NHRA to do that for you, but you know its Bogus. Just because I said the Indy teardown thing why do you assume I am accusing anyone of cheating?? I was asked for my opinion so I gave it. And thats what it is my OPINION.. I dont expect you to like it. I still think JS has the Baddest D car....

I agree with Stefen.. The fords are going to kick all of our ***'s from GT/AA to FA anyway

Could not have said it better myself.

Don Whitmore · 07-06-2010, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by race watcher

It will not be all out during class. If a heads up during the eliminator happens you will get see who has what.

Not sure who you are, but I'm calling BS on this post, especially at Indy for example, I guess not winning SS/AH class doesn't mean anything to C. Wescott Jr. ?

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PONTIAC'S REVENGE Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CARMEL, INDIANA Posts: 141 Likes: 69 Liked 48 Times in 18 Posts	Re: The baddest GTDA in the country! I think both cars are wicked fast. That matchup will be won on the tree at Indy, I bet. Jerry had a good light .027 but Peter is amazing .004. I wish I could have been there to see that one. I'm glad they lowered the indexes so we could see some of these battles again. Awesome matchup very Also Dave, Phil and I will go back to cast iron heads; if you go back to cast iron crank and rods with stock bearing sizes. Everyone has advantages with OEM stuff including you. My engine still has OEM Block and crank. I was even told by your engine builder that most times the aluminun heads "are not worth the extra hp you get" fyi Incidently, I was at Bischoff's when Phil's motor was being built. Phil went to great lengths to make sure it was very legal. Just in case that was the implication. Isn't Super Stock !! Stacy Last edited by PONTIAC'S REVENGE; 07-06-2010 at 02:35 PM.

07-06-2010, 02:55 PM	#35
Joe DeMarzo Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mahopac, NY Posts: 666 Likes: 48 Liked 113 Times in 9 Posts	Re: The baddest GTDA in the country! Wheels up, I have no idea if he was all out that day but was Hatari all out that day or just enough to win? My point is that when some racers get beat they have tons of excuses. If you are in eliminations with the new index's why hide it, he had room based on both racers et. I would love for everyone to race it b*lls to wall. When I get beat heads up the other guy was better that day unless its Jim Marshall who I can not nor can anyone run when he lets its lose. Willl another racer come up with another reason they did not win at Indy and say they were faster than Hatari and Jerry? Fastest car on the same track same day in eliminations settles it. Why would Jerry not run it out during eliminations? Did he have another .14 left before he was hit automatically? I have no clue......but he was flagged anyway for going -1.007 under. By the by I never heard Jerry complain or make excuses, he is a great racer and tuner as are many others. What class was Iacono in when this came up last year? __________________ Joe DeMarzo 1317 STK

07-06-2010, 05:12 PM	#37
Dave Tincher Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Elizabethtown IN Posts: 118 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: The baddest GTDA in the country! Stacey, You guys need to get a set of cast heads going! Nothing but stock cranks and rod sizes here. I know what the difference is between the Edelbrock heads and the factory Pontiac heads, you not fooling anybody. The cast gm heads are better than the alluminum OEM gm heads I will agree with that. But the edelbrock and Pontiacs, thats different. Hats off to you guys for getting NHRA to do that for you, but you know its Bogus. Just because I said the Indy teardown thing why do you assume I am accusing anyone of cheating?? I was asked for my opinion so I gave it. And thats what it is my OPINION.. I dont expect you to like it. I still think JS has the Baddest D car.... I agree with Stefen.. The fords are going to kick all of our ***'s from GT/AA to FA anyway __________________ Dave Tincher 306 SS

07-06-2010, 05:19 PM	#38
race watcher Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 50 Likes: 5 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: The baddest GTDA in the country! It will not be all out during class. If a heads up during the eliminator happens you will get see who has what.