HOME FORUM RULES CONTACT
     
   
   

Go Back   CLASS RACER FORUM > Class Racer Forums > Stock and Super Stock
Register Photo Gallery FAQ Community Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-12-2011, 03:41 PM   #31
Ed Wright
Veteran Member
 
Ed Wright's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sand Springs, OK
Posts: 8,132
Likes: 896
Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts
Default Re: Where is the pride? Is it just a checkbook?

I always end up having a few more than that with Lloyd.
__________________
Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA
Ed Wright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2011, 03:56 PM   #32
Peter Ash
Member
 
Peter Ash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 262
Likes: 2
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Where is the pride? Is it just a checkbook?

In a closed in carport, somewhere up north! Proudly being home built.

http://www3.telus.net/prash

Last edited by Peter Ash; 01-12-2011 at 04:24 PM.
Peter Ash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2011, 04:04 PM   #33
Ed Wright
Veteran Member
 
Ed Wright's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sand Springs, OK
Posts: 8,132
Likes: 896
Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts
Default Re: Where is the pride? Is it just a checkbook?

Looks good.
__________________
Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

Last edited by Ed Wright; 01-12-2011 at 04:48 PM.
Ed Wright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2011, 04:54 PM   #34
CBS
VIP Member
 
CBS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Commerce, Mi
Posts: 1,387
Likes: 1
Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts
Default Re: Where is the pride? Is it just a checkbook?

We are in the Pride/Satisfaction/Checkbook group.......We buy what we have to and build the rest......

and I kinda like the current HP factor too....lol

Rock Haas
CBS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2011, 05:56 PM   #35
Bill Edgeworth
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Tacoma, WA
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Where is the pride? Is it just a checkbook?

I would say it’s unfair to classify 99% of the guys who have work done for them as checkbook racers. This is 2011 not 1970 were talking 9 second cars now not 11-12 second cars. The skill set required to build a new car compared to yester year is very different. Some examples; look at the chassis work on the new cars how many home builders have the skill to properly tig weld chrome moly tube? How many have a $4,000 welder and all the other fabrication equipment at home? How many guys are willing to try and lay down a paint job with $500 per gallon urethane paint? How many guys are fuel injection gurus? Capable of building a fast durable transmission? AND the new engines are extremely sophisticated compared to the old carbureted ones. I think most do what they are comfortable doing and leave the rest to the experts. You need to be extremely proficient in many more areas today to build a new car without compromising safety, performance or the quality of the build. I don’t think for most that it’s a question of the pride of DIY but the fear of DIY.
__________________
Bill Edgeworth 6471 STK
Bill Edgeworth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2011, 05:59 PM   #36
71mavlouisville
Junior Member
 
71mavlouisville's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
Liked 28 Times in 1 Post
Default Re: Where is the pride? Is it just a checkbook?

I don't know of anyone that actually builds a complete car in super stock. You have to start with a stock body, you didn't build that. What about stock glass? Tires? Wheels? Original front suspension? Brakes? Engine Block? Cylinder Heads? etc. etc. None of us start with a blank sheet and engineer and manufacture an engine. I think Formula One is about the only race cars that are completely engineered, manufactured and built from the ground up, and they even farm stuff out. We are modifiers by nature. We take things that others have engineered and modify for our specific use.
As far as winning, I would gladly take a win any way I could get it. If it was in my car or anyone else's. I would imagine (considering I have no personal experience with this) that when you cross the stripe and your light comes on you aren't thinking about who painted the car or who welded the cage. You won - time to celebrate! Ashton Hudson SS 4373
71mavlouisville is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2011, 11:32 PM   #37
Jim Bailey
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 674
Likes: 15
Liked 584 Times in 94 Posts
Cool Re: Where is the pride? Is it just a checkbook?

I wonder what the out come would be... IF... they sealed your engine at the scale, and you drove it to the barn. Then, after tear down, you reassembled the engine, and it was again sealed, and you drove it back to your pit.... Here's the catch... the only person allowed in the barn was the driver? Just a thought. JB.
Jim Bailey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2011, 12:00 AM   #38
hemidup
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 409
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Where is the pride? Is it just a checkbook?

Our 2009 5.7 DP is a team effort as far as the old school way of building it. Don is the driver, Denny's the tuner and crew cheif and Denny and I work the wrenches. We did buy the MPR rear end kit cause we couldn't make the brackets for the labor, materials or the R&D for the price that Mike was selling it for and we only wanted to do it once. Mike's kit fit the bill and was flawless. (Thanks again Peter) Other than that, we're doing the rest from buiding the roll cage, rear end, engine assembly, header's, wiring, EFI tuning, paint, interior, yada yada. We're just 3 broke guy's trying to build a competitive DP. Our DP car is a labor of love. Doesn't cost us nothing for labor, just parts and material. Like Peter and Mack, we know every nut and bolt on this car. We're to the point of needing money for the transmission and suspention. Anyone interested in an oringinal, fresh restored 64 Dodge Polara 426 Max wedge hard top? One of 5 ever built and only one in this color. I just finished up the long block today.
__________________
Jerry Williams
NSS/A, E/S, PRO E.T. And the "Grandaddy" of Gen III Hemi Performance...The fire inside me still burn's.
hemidup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2011, 12:01 AM   #39
Carl Weisinger
Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 98
Likes: 5
Liked 12 Times in 5 Posts
Talking Re: Where is the pride? Is it just a checkbook?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey Miles View Post
HerbJ: You have hit a point that alot of people seem to miss, but there are still some of us out there who still answer the question " Who is your engine builder?" , you are talking to him. Granted, personaly I can't be as competitive as the check writers, but that $5. bottle of shoe polish makes up for that in a big way. It's disapointing that people don't do as much of there own work as it used to be, but time moves on, along with the sport. It's the same as our country, it's service oriented versus manufacturing based now.

Has anyone esle do the math on the Mopar's V-10, it can be as big as 532 cubic inches in stock rules. Rated 450 HP, yah hoo!

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

Who is your engine builder? .....That's usually a question asked just after you kick
a connecting rod right out the side of the block.....
Carl Weisinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2011, 10:48 AM   #40
X-TECH MAN
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Lake Placid, Florida
Posts: 3,203
Likes: 1,047
Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts
Thumbs up Re: Where is the pride? Is it just a checkbook?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bailey View Post
I wonder what the out come would be... IF... they sealed your engine at the scale, and you drove it to the barn. Then, after tear down, you reassembled the engine, and it was again sealed, and you drove it back to your pit.... Here's the catch... the only person allowed in the barn was the driver? Just a thought. JB.
A lot of the touring drivers cant change a spark plug. I remeber when A.B. couldnt tear his engine down at the IHRA finals at Bristol after winning Modified elim. in his G/ED (super stock engine in a dragster) many years ago. He didnt know how to even start. Another racer A.B. had beaten in an early round said he would do it for him. The job was done quickly and he passed and he got the win. Not all who race are mechanical wonders.
X-TECH MAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.