Worst/Late or non paying contingency sponsors - Page 4

FED 387 · 03-06-2014, 07:30 PM

Sponsors are very clear when it comes to what a competitor must do to be paid any contingency monies--- Unfortunately I wish they were as concerned about fulfilling their obligations when it's time to pay the EARNED contingency monies-- I know many racers that race with the car devoid of many "paying contingency sponsors" who for some reason manage a way to finagle out of paying!!!! It's BS we know it is- they know it is and NHRA pretends to be totally oblivious to it--- Those decals can come off in a minute if need be-- Money talks BS walks ---Pay the money it isn't gonna break em for 25-300 dollars if it is they have no business trying to be big operators. And NHRA should enforce it----Suggestion if the sponsor has not paid you in a reasonable amount of time and you satisfied all the requirements necessary. show up at their company unanounced if its close and tell them you are their to pick up your check -- you will scare the hell out of them bet you get your money ASAP- kinda a same story but I had a problem getting certain parts from a well known Transmission company---all kinds of excuses for several months from them finally got on a plane flew to their facility and announced I was tired of their BS I'm here to pick up my stuff--shoulda seen the look on their faces they were totally flabbergasted-- I picked up my parts in about 15 minutes---never had problem with them again

Michael Beard · 03-06-2014, 08:07 PM

http://www.nhra.com/competition/contingency-req.aspx

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All Sponsors require use of posted product and display of posted product decal beginning with the first round of eliminations.

Jeff Niceswanger · 03-06-2014, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard

http://www.nhra.com/competition/contingency-req.aspx

Hi Michael, lookin forward to Columbus

Some don't care. Just depends. We have a Pro Trans and a Rossler Trans. Carl ( Rossler) He told me " you paid me the money for the tranny, so I'll pay". He doesn't really care which one is in the car at that particular race.

DIAPERMAN · 03-06-2014, 08:58 PM

Like I posted earlier if they dont pay out all they signed up for .They have to write NHRA a check for the balance ,so why would NHRA push this

Alex Denysenko · 03-06-2014, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Niceswanger

K& N will not pay if you actually don't have the air cleaner on in eliminations. At least they would not not pay in my case, so I took their decals off. I tried to explain its really rare for a Superstocker to actually run air cleaners, and I have them on the motorhome, but no dice.....Just to make you all aware

correct Jeff, we found that out long ago so we justt started keeping the filters somewhere in the cars and all was good no trouble getting paid.

njk53 · 03-07-2014, 10:56 AM

The solution to the situation regarding deadbeat sponsors in my opinion is pretty simple. We as racers communicate pretty well and we know and communicate who the good/prompt payers are and who the companies are that you have to chase to the four corners of the earth to get your contingency money. We collectivey have to not only stop advertising their company by running their product stickers but, quit buying their products. Trust me, they will eventually get the message when they see the masses not using their products. It is an important marketing tool to see their stickers and products when a racer is in the winners circle. When they see there is no product usage and product advertisment decal on cars that are in the winner/runner-up circle, they take notice. But, if you allow them to get away with their payout practices by advertising and using their products, they are going to continue to do it.

HandOverFist · 03-07-2014, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Denysenko

correct Jeff, we found that out long ago so we justt started keeping the filters somewhere in the cars and all was good no trouble getting paid.

Did the same thing years ago...bought a new Autometer playback tach and just wedged it between the seat and console with no wiring. Got payed after the finals.

Wade_Owens · 03-07-2014, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

CSR and JW are by far the worst!!! Impact and Haulmark are not much better!!!!

You are correct. I will never purchase another JW or CSR product. We have 3 different builds going on in my shop now, you wont see any of their products on any of them...

JW would take 15+ months to pay. Alex would email them and I talked to Beth (who is no longer there) MANY times. The next year, same thing all over again.

Wade

Alex Denysenko · 03-07-2014, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Wade_Owens

You are correct. I will never purchase another JW or CSR product. We have 3 different builds going on in my shop now, you wont see any of their products on any of them...

JW would take 15+ months to pay. Alex would email them and I talked to Beth (who is no longer there) MANY times. The next year, same thing all over again.

Wade

CSI/CSR has always been very slow but I must admit that we ALWAYS eventually got paid, on the other hand JW has never paid us. We repaid the favor by no longer selling their products in our speed shop.We stock and sell a lot of trans shields bell housings and flexplates. None of which are JW anymore

Bryan Worner · 03-08-2014, 08:47 AM

CSR was an absolute joke! I have used their water pump and starter since I started racing. When I wasn't getting paid by them, I called, only to be greeted by the worst customer service ever! An absolute b*#$h on the phone, stated I wasn't getting paid because I didn't send in my contingency regristration card! WTF??? Are you f'in kidding me??? But they knew I had the product!!! I will NEVER buy another CSR product EVER again!

K&N, no problems here! They help us out tremendously! JW, continues to be very slow, but eventually pays.

03-06-2014, 07:30 PM	#31
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,420 Likes: 529 Liked 333 Times in 180 Posts	Re: Worst/Late or non paying contingency sponsors Sponsors are very clear when it comes to what a competitor must do to be paid any contingency monies--- Unfortunately I wish they were as concerned about fulfilling their obligations when it's time to pay the EARNED contingency monies-- I know many racers that race with the car devoid of many "paying contingency sponsors" who for some reason manage a way to finagle out of paying!!!! It's BS we know it is- they know it is and NHRA pretends to be totally oblivious to it--- Those decals can come off in a minute if need be-- Money talks BS walks ---Pay the money it isn't gonna break em for 25-300 dollars if it is they have no business trying to be big operators. And NHRA should enforce it----Suggestion if the sponsor has not paid you in a reasonable amount of time and you satisfied all the requirements necessary. show up at their company unanounced if its close and tell them you are their to pick up your check -- you will scare the hell out of them bet you get your money ASAP- kinda a same story but I had a problem getting certain parts from a well known Transmission company---all kinds of excuses for several months from them finally got on a plane flew to their facility and announced I was tired of their BS I'm here to pick up my stuff--shoulda seen the look on their faces they were totally flabbergasted-- I picked up my parts in about 15 minutes---never had problem with them again

03-06-2014, 08:58 PM	#34
DIAPERMAN Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ILLINIOS Posts: 715 Likes: 2 Liked 21 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Worst/Late or non paying contingency sponsors Like I posted earlier if they dont pay out all they signed up for .They have to write NHRA a check for the balance ,so why would NHRA push this

03-07-2014, 10:56 AM	#36
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Worst/Late or non paying contingency sponsors The solution to the situation regarding deadbeat sponsors in my opinion is pretty simple. We as racers communicate pretty well and we know and communicate who the good/prompt payers are and who the companies are that you have to chase to the four corners of the earth to get your contingency money. We collectivey have to not only stop advertising their company by running their product stickers but, quit buying their products. Trust me, they will eventually get the message when they see the masses not using their products. It is an important marketing tool to see their stickers and products when a racer is in the winners circle. When they see there is no product usage and product advertisment decal on cars that are in the winner/runner-up circle, they take notice. But, if you allow them to get away with their payout practices by advertising and using their products, they are going to continue to do it. __________________ Nelson Kowal Stock 345

03-08-2014, 08:47 AM	#40
Bryan Worner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Duncannon, PA Posts: 823 Likes: 133 Liked 525 Times in 84 Posts	Re: Worst/Late or non paying contingency sponsors CSR was an absolute joke! I have used their water pump and starter since I started racing. When I wasn't getting paid by them, I called, only to be greeted by the worst customer service ever! An absolute b*#$h on the phone, stated I wasn't getting paid because I didn't send in my contingency regristration card! WTF??? Are you f'in kidding me??? But they knew I had the product!!! I will NEVER buy another CSR product EVER again! K&N, no problems here! They help us out tremendously! JW, continues to be very slow, but eventually pays.