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It was a very well run event and alot of fun in my opinion and if you weren't able to make the trip for whatever reason you missed out on a great event. I'm still up in the air about the re-entries but for this race I was a fan of it as John Dustin took me to school in 1st round however with better participation they might would look at removing this. I think they possibly saw this two ways, one it might attract people to tow a little further if they had two shots and two the car count was low they could make up the money difference with the buyback. Either way it was a nice event and a nice facility and congratulations to all the winners. See you in october.
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I personally would never miss another race like this if it's within reasonable driving distance! Especially one at MIR! Racers can give whatever excuse they want, but anyone within a few hundred miles should've been there!
I didn't agree with the buybacks either! Now, especially since I got beat by a guy that lost first round!! But, hey, we had a great race. No complaints about that. But what I will say is if you are going to have buybacks, then 1st round should be random pair! That way you don't have 1st round rematches, like you had 3 at this event. I just don't think you should have to race the same opponent 2 rounds in a row! That's called a match race. Maybe Roy Hill would enjoy that, but it's not what we were there for. One complaint I do have about the event was the track prep! Normally MIR is top notch with the track and starting line! But round 2 of stock and super stock saw a spin fest! I got real lucky, because I lost .3 in 60' and still won my round! Others didn't make it off the line. Every pair of SS, one of the racers spun. And I mean blew the tires off! I was really surprised by this, since they normally do a great job there. All in all, this was a great event. I can't wait until the next one at Virginia in October. |
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There are alot of complaints on this tread about the buy backs. How many stock and super stock racers bought back. As many that are against than I would suspect that only a few bought back. I would not be against buy backs at the opens or special events like this one. The local tracks have been doing this for years as a way to increase revenue and stay in buisness. The other option is to raise the entry fee to cover the cost.
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Thyere was 36 total superstock cars .
That leaves a possible buy-back # of 18. Out of a possible 18 buy-backs there was only 9 that did it.. I don't know the #'s in stock...
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54 Stockers
27 Rd 1 runner ups 16 Buy backs |
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I too was very disappointed in car counts! Like others have said...I don't get it. If you don't want buybacks you first have to support the race. Skooter would love to do away with them or at least put a buyback cap on car count, but first he needs to make sure he's not going to run the sanctioning body out of business. Nearly every big money race you will ever see has got buybacks (if not 2 rounds) because thats how they afford to pay the money! DUH!!! I'll be honest, I'm not a fan of the buybacks either but if that's what it takes to run for big money class racing......then so be it. I would have not hesitated to use it. I could have went to Rt 66 this past weekend and only traveled 500 miles round trip but instead I opted to travel 1200 miles because I realize which sanctioning body gives a ***** whether I'm there or not. I spent half as much on entry, got to suck it up in 2 classes with 1 car, and raced for a lot more money..........Like I said.....I don't get it! Lets hope car counts are WAY up at Richmond otherwise I don't think we'll get another one.
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The obvious but difficult to answer question is, would they have received greater revenue from increased car counts if they did not have buybacks? In Stock, they would've needed 65 cars (+11) to make more money than they did with re-entry, and 40 cars (+4) in Super Stock.
I say difficult to answer because I have repeatedly seen and heard over the years, "I would've gone if..." My concern is that if it wasn't buybacks, there simply would've been some other excuse for not attending. I went, I raced, Myron conquered. (again). ![]()
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I really hated to miss this race and plan on being in Virginia in October. My original thought was that the buy backs may have kept more racers from coming to the race than what the track received in buy back money. If there were only 26 total in stock and super stock that bought back that means only 13 more entries to get the same amount of money. Does anyone think there would have been significant more entries without the buy back deal?
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In Stock and SS there are a dozen rules that will eliminate you if you violate.....like a red light. If you use the buy back rule those rules are now not valid. These two classes are based on fairly strict rules and to allow buy backs negates those rules.
Buy backs are for bracket racers that have no rules! JimR
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