What would your Div director do ? - Page 4

442OLDS · 07-25-2011, 05:22 PM

I was at Columbus and thought I heard some drivers discussing this race,but I didn't know exactly what happened.

I think I heard that the total package of the winning driver was better than .017,which was the reaction time of Marion.

Therefore,the top end driving was not a factor.

However,maybe his light would have been better if the top bulb came on?

The best solution to me would be this:

"Any provable tree malfunction should result in a re-run with no questions asked."

However, I am not a Division Director.Tough job.

Andrew Hill · 07-25-2011, 06:10 PM

Jay decided not to re-run cars at the Bowling Green open after the tree malfunctioned there, causing late lights with quick 60 ft. times which resulted in quick e.t.'s and lots of breakouts, so it doesn't surprise me that he wouldn't re-run this one. It definitely should have been, though!

Pvt Parts · 07-25-2011, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Seems that the cold hard fact of a Malfunction should be the deciding factor. A good light, a bad light, a "relatively" good light wouldnt seem to matter. Re Run would seem in order on the basis of Malfunction unrelated to "subjective" evaluation of et, rx etc.
Micheal, it shouldnt have been up to him to "want " a rerun. Tower should have ruled based on what happened with the tree, nothing more.

Correct. Everyone agrees that the tree malfunctioned. Everything beyond that point is irrelevant. Fix the tree and rerun it.

Jeff Stout · 07-25-2011, 07:13 PM

Like a previous poster stated. They fixed tree before next pair ran. Why? In DD mind it wasnt a problem so it should have stayed broke with 1 bulb missing.

Ed Wright · 07-25-2011, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pvt parts

correct. Everyone agrees that the tree malfunctioned. Everything beyond that point is irrelevant. Fix the tree and rerun it.

x2

Bobby Brannon · 07-25-2011, 08:16 PM

US Nationals a few years ago.. Had to race Mickey Walter and my middle bulb did not come on.. It was a rerun. Mickey won the first race and I won the second race. Steven Hall was spotting for me and Rick Stewart removed the bulb, signed it, handed to Steven and I have it.
Any tree malfunction should and always should require a rerun.

I have also been on the losing side as I raced Speedy Emmons at Baton Rouge and we had a tree problem. Starter said that I Red Lighted and gave win to Speedy. I dailed a 11.62 [1984 G/SA} and scoreboard showed 11.32. Have a VCR tape that showed to "GREEN" lites. Howard Stanfield was in tower fighting for me and Harvry Emmons was at scales also fighting.. Walter the starter called it and it was offical. Everyone this was the "FINALS"

My 2 cents

"RERUN"

Satch Gragg · 07-25-2011, 08:16 PM

IHRA rule book page 113 - re-runs

If any "single" amber bulb is burned out on the competitor's side of the tree the race will be re-run.

Looks like something else NHRA will need to steal from IHRA ...lol

Bobby Brannon · 07-25-2011, 08:19 PM

Satch
I like that

X-TECH MAN · 07-25-2011, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 442OLDS

I was at Columbus and thought I heard some drivers discussing this race,but I didn't know exactly what happened.

I think I heard that the total package of the winning driver was better than .017,which was the reaction time of Marion.

Therefore,the top end driving was not a factor.

However,maybe his light would have been better if the top bulb came on?

The best solution to me would be this:

"Any provable tree malfunction should result in a re-run with no questions asked."

However, I am not a Division Director.Tough job.

Some Div. directors really care and some dont. I remeber Greg X. as being one of the good guys. Bob Lang is also one of the good guys. Maybe Im partial to Div. 1....LOL.

mr305 · 07-25-2011, 08:49 PM

wow what a shock d3 director made a not so good call!!! should have been a rerun i know that word is not in his vocabulary i've been nailed by him twice!!!
aaron disinger
327y
gt/ha

07-25-2011, 05:22 PM	#31
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,339 Likes: 5 Liked 282 Times in 103 Posts	Re: What would your Div director do ? I was at Columbus and thought I heard some drivers discussing this race,but I didn't know exactly what happened. I think I heard that the total package of the winning driver was better than .017,which was the reaction time of Marion. Therefore,the top end driving was not a factor. However,maybe his light would have been better if the top bulb came on? The best solution to me would be this: "Any provable tree malfunction should result in a re-run with no questions asked." However, I am not a Division Director.Tough job.

07-25-2011, 06:10 PM	#32
Andrew Hill Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 701 Likes: 446 Liked 173 Times in 39 Posts	Re: What would your Div director do ? Jay decided not to re-run cars at the Bowling Green open after the tree malfunctioned there, causing late lights with quick 60 ft. times which resulted in quick e.t.'s and lots of breakouts, so it doesn't surprise me that he wouldn't re-run this one. It definitely should have been, though! __________________ 3207 D/SA, C/ED Last edited by Andrew Hill; 07-25-2011 at 07:28 PM.

07-25-2011, 07:13 PM	#34
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,486 Likes: 66 Liked 704 Times in 281 Posts	Re: What would your Div director do ? Like a previous poster stated. They fixed tree before next pair ran. Why? In DD mind it wasnt a problem so it should have stayed broke with 1 bulb missing.

07-25-2011, 08:16 PM	#36
Bobby Brannon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bossier City,La. Posts: 659 Likes: 3 Liked 104 Times in 35 Posts	Re: What would your Div director do ? US Nationals a few years ago.. Had to race Mickey Walter and my middle bulb did not come on.. It was a rerun. Mickey won the first race and I won the second race. Steven Hall was spotting for me and Rick Stewart removed the bulb, signed it, handed to Steven and I have it. Any tree malfunction should and always should require a rerun. I have also been on the losing side as I raced Speedy Emmons at Baton Rouge and we had a tree problem. Starter said that I Red Lighted and gave win to Speedy. I dailed a 11.62 [1984 G/SA} and scoreboard showed 11.32. Have a VCR tape that showed to "GREEN" lites. Howard Stanfield was in tower fighting for me and Harvry Emmons was at scales also fighting.. Walter the starter called it and it was offical. Everyone this was the "FINALS" My 2 cents "RERUN" __________________ Bobby Brannon 4705 STK, SS

07-25-2011, 08:16 PM	#37
Satch Gragg Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 18 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What would your Div director do ? IHRA rule book page 113 - re-runs If any "single" amber bulb is burned out on the competitor's side of the tree the race will be re-run. Looks like something else NHRA will need to steal from IHRA ...lol

07-25-2011, 08:19 PM	#38
Bobby Brannon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bossier City,La. Posts: 659 Likes: 3 Liked 104 Times in 35 Posts	Re: What would your Div director do ? Satch I like that __________________ Bobby Brannon 4705 STK, SS

07-25-2011, 08:49 PM	#40
mr305 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Monticello Posts: 160 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: What would your Div director do ? wow what a shock d3 director made a not so good call!!! should have been a rerun i know that word is not in his vocabulary i've been nailed by him twice!!! aaron disinger 327y gt/ha