Back from Indy-what's happened to Stock Eliminator??

[danny waters sr]

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

This has been said again and again and again!!!! Quickest wasy to fix is to BRING BACK EFI CLASSES!!!!

I agree with you 100% and i am not talking about you personally , just a comment and opinion.....

Most of you all look down on IHRA ,but at least they did exactly that and on top of that they have a EFI class for all 2008 and newer cars (example AA/FI , BB/FI , and so on if needed) so's they don't take advantage of the older irons.
Which leaves all the older cars still competitive and a place to race without having to worry to much about heads - up with the new cars...

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by danny waters sr

I agree with you 100% and i am not talking about you personally , just a comment and opinion.....

Most of you all look down on IHRA ,but at least they did exactly that and on top of that they have a EFI class for all 2008 and newer cars (example AA/FI , BB/FI , and so on if needed) so's they don't take advantage of the older irons.
Which leaves all the older cars still competitive and a place to race without having to worry to much about heads - up with the new cars...

Save your typing fingers Danny......Most hard core NHRA racers would quit before they would race with IHRA. They just prefer getting their heads beat in by the new cars better I guess. Its an ego trip for them anyway. Ever notice they will travel 2000+ miles to race NHRA but wont go across the street to run an IHRA race. By the way....I have my membership and car number for stock. Hope to be knocking heads with you soon.....LOL. Keep the A/C in good working order in your motor home.

[Jim Kaekel]

Originally Posted by NWDragracing

Jim,

Wes is a racer, engine builder and also the owner of Pro Header Systems and I think he has been racing a way bit longer in the Stock/Super Stock ranks than you.

http://proheadersystems.com/default.asp

Wes should still sign his name if he wants any credibility to be given. For your info, I'm 52 and have been racing since '81. Began NHRA LODRS racing in '91.

[danny waters sr]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Save your typing fingers Danny......Most hard core NHRA racers would quit before they would race with IHRA. They just prefer getting their heads beat in by the new cars better I guess. Its an ego trip for them anyway. Ever notice they will travel 2000+ miles to race NHRA but wont go across the street to run an IHRA race. By the way....I have my membership and car number for stock. Hope to be knocking heads with you soon.....LOL. Keep the A/C in good working order in your motor home.

Come on in ,the waters fine and the A/C will be working. Getting ready to leave for Darlington in just a little while.Trying to tune my junk up so i can battle with Owen Burkette if he comes in L/SA......I need to take the heater ,wipers and blower fan motor off and a few other things so's i can use my weight box....lol, then i won't be able to cruise on the street.;

[Harry 6674]

This is the way I would handle it if I were king. I would not give the new cars their own class. Thats weak. I would factor the cars correctly first. That would set the factors for AA-C then I would move the other cars down. The cj's and dp's are the fastest cars out there so they would make up the higher classes. Sorry but the 69 427/396 camaros would no longer be in the highest class. As far as the new cars not being street legal that argument is bogus. The cars are available from the factory with the engines offered so the crate motor argument is also bogus. IHRA has the real crate motor classes. So thats it just factor correctly. If it takes 5 lb to make AA so be it. I don't know what kind of power ths new cj's put out but it has to be 750 plus so that would be a good place to start.

[Paul Precht]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

This is the way I would handle it if I were king. I would not give the new cars their own class. Thats weak. I would factor the cars correctly first. That would set the factors for AA-C then I would move the other cars down. The cj's and dp's are the fastest cars out there so they would make up the higher classes. Sorry but the 69 427/396 camaros would no longer be in the highest class. As far as the new cars not being street legal that argument is bogus. The cars are available from the factory with the engines offered so the crate motor argument is also bogus. IHRA has the real crate motor classes. So thats it just factor correctly. If it takes 5 lb to make AA so be it. I don't know what kind of power ths new cj's put out but it has to be 750 plus so that would be a good place to start.

One of the Cobras went almost 145 mph in 90 degree heat with a low baro, WOW.

[BlueOval Ralph]

3903 Ray Skillman Bye
C1 ****WINNER**** 0.034 8.658 160.00
SS/BA Index: 9.90 (+/-): -1.242
Qualified: #1 8.750 156.52

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

3903 Ray Skillman Bye
C1 ****WINNER**** 0.034 8.658 160.00
SS/BA Index: 9.90 (+/-): -1.242
Qualified: #1 8.750 156.52

Nice run. NO that was a GREAT run !

[Dan Bennett]

I think one of the things that is so frustrating for a lot of us is that this problem is such a no-brainer and has such an easy solution.

I'm really happy to see the factories back in competition but they should be ashamed of the present set up. How proud would you be to have even the worst NFL team play - and demolish - a high school team?

The last time we were in this situation, A/FX was quickly established and rightful places were found for the other cars. No one had to sell their cars, invest a fortune in new equipment, or stay home due to obsolescence.

Why this can't be done by the next race is beyond me.

Maybe the factories think that we all believe their new "paper" cars are exactly what I can buy off the showroom and drive to the burger joint on the weekend. I don't want to drive them away now that they've finally decided to spend some money on the Sportsman, but I think they're really hurting their image.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

This is the way I would handle it if I were king. I would not give the new cars their own class. Thats weak. I would factor the cars correctly first. That would set the factors for AA-C then I would move the other cars down. The cj's and dp's are the fastest cars out there so they would make up the higher classes. Sorry but the 69 427/396 camaros would no longer be in the highest class. As far as the new cars not being street legal that argument is bogus. The cars are available from the factory with the engines offered so the crate motor argument is also bogus. IHRA has the real crate motor classes. So thats it just factor correctly. If it takes 5 lb to make AA so be it. I don't know what kind of power ths new cj's put out but it has to be 750 plus so that would be a good place to start.

Quote Harry:The cars are available from the factory with the engines offered so the crate motor argument is also bogus.

Not so.The early DPs were delivered to you with a (I believe) caravan axle in place of the rear,a trans that was a core sent back to Chrysler with no innards,no driveshaft.
Now my little gremlin was driven home from the dealership and toiled on the streets of NYC for 125,000 miles.Not that's showroom available to the public.
NHRA doesn't need crate motors,they can (well used to before our present conditions,both economic and internal,as in NHRA buffoonery).IHRA added them for survival of the org.