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Old 12-11-2011, 10:50 AM   #31
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It is coming and not as far away as you think either...
With the investment to reward ratio as far out of whack as it is you're probably right.
One of my favorite quotes, "Billy, I don't sanction Drag Races anymore, I sanction Alternative Lifestyle Weekends"!
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Old 12-11-2011, 11:23 AM   #32
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Just run it til they make it s/ss combo then eventually it will all go away and then we will all be bracket racing with one other option and that is QUIT !......It is coming and not as far away as you think either...
if it comes to that I'm going X275 racing.
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Old 12-11-2011, 02:28 PM   #33
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Here is what I would do. Remember, we are looking for the flagrant cheaters, not the guy with .004 too much lift, with these inspections.

1. Impound top 10 after qualifying.
2. Everyone pulls carb,a spark plug, and a valve cover.
3. NHRA acquires an inspection camera that can go down an intake runner or through a spark plug hole.
4. A visual inspection of carb, casting number check on heads, visual on intake.
5. Stick camera down a few runners, looking for obvious modifications, Ti valves, etc.
6. Stick camera in spark plug hole to verify piston configuration
7. do an approximate valve lift check on stockers using a pair of calipers (not terribly accurate, but if someone has a BOGUS cam, its going to be WAY bigger not .015)

All of the above could be done at the scales, and then seal the motors. If there is anything odd in this cursory inspection, it would not be grounds for immediate DQ, just grounds for a full teardown.

Another possibility would be requiring an inspection plug in the pan that the camera would fit through, just to look for AL rods or ultralight pistons.
I like this idea but instead of top 10 qualifiers this should be done for, but not limited to, Class winners, heads up run winners, bottom 10 qualifiers (people could cheat to run under the index) and any run a second under or a run that gets automatic horsepower.
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Old 12-11-2011, 02:36 PM   #34
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Bo, I'm sure you've run this one past your broker already because even you won't last long under those rules. Not to mention, when it goes away for lack of participation in a couple of years it's an expensive bracket car. Or maybe you could just sit on it for 20 years and restore it for B-J.
If it gets that bad I still like my idea, engine has to look stock, stock hood, 9" tire, no class designation, no heads-up. Everyone just dials in and races. We could just call the whole thing "Stock". Or ET-2.
Billy, you do know that Bo is in a "lucrative" business...not many will be able to outspend him.
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Old 12-11-2011, 02:41 PM   #35
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....and any run a second under or a run that gets automatic horsepower.
The CJ guys and tech would get awfully tired if that was the case...a whole lotta work! Face it folks, NHRA is not going to tear down any more than they have to, they will be cutting staff before they add any.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:51 PM   #36
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Billy , left that out by accident . Everyone put a dial on there car.
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:20 PM   #37
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I like this idea but instead of top 10 qualifiers this should be done for, but not limited to, Class winners, heads up run winners, bottom 10 qualifiers (people could cheat to run under the index) and any run a second under or a run that gets automatic horsepower.
i could agree with that
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:32 PM   #38
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Face it folks, NHRA is not going to tear down any more than they have to, they will be cutting staff before they add any.
I think you hit the nail on on the head, Jim.
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Old 12-11-2011, 10:33 PM   #39
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Run what you brung , Limited tech , cubic inch and carb or trottle body super charger size for engine claimed for that year forget the rest . Nothing is stock anymore and nothing is super stock either . Tech cars when you ckeck in , when you win class and if you win or RU race

This would save the sanctioning bodies a lot of grief and the racers would sort it out on the track

Getting closer to that every day.
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:26 AM   #40
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If it gets to that, I feel sorry for the poor bastard who bought a 100k stocker to just bracket race it. What a waste of money. Just build some stock Camaro with a PG and forget about it. I say eliminate the class and have a nice day before it becomes an all run all dial class .
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