Average year for the 10 @ LORDS2-2 - Page 4

Ed Wright · 03-12-2013, 12:52 PM

If you are willing to write the check, it is the Easy Button. It's going to be a few years before most get enough HP to have to start thrashing headers, converters, camshafts, shocks, etc, to pick them up to be competitive in class or heads-ups.

I'm not near fast enough, and have three sets of headers (need another), three intake manifolds, five camshafts, had three converters, three transmissions (different ratios) and need to test one more rear gear. I can go 1.05 under in the heat if I need to, and am dead meat in a heads-up against one of those things. Probably against Gary Emmons too. LOL

Sean Cour · 03-12-2013, 01:40 PM

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They're available to anyone!

What a concept. You forgot to mention the fact that only applies to anyone that's got roughly $100,000 laying around with nothing better to spend it on.

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Jim Kaekel · 03-12-2013, 02:05 PM

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I just got Four Stars....thank you very much!

GUMP · 03-12-2013, 02:05 PM

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What a concept. You forgot to mention the fact that only applies to anyone that's got roughly $100,000 laying around with nothing better to spend it on.

I wonder how much a really trick 1970 442 Stocker would cost if I started building one today?

(Don't forget to include the price of a real 442 that is in at least very good condition)

Hagen Gary · 03-12-2013, 02:12 PM

I guess it's like when you see someone at the supermarket buying steak and shrimp on food stamp cards and paying for all their beer and cigs with their own money, then getting into their Beamer in the front row handy capped spot (even though clearly they are not handy capped). Some people will applaud them for gaming the system, others will call them no good pieces of crap. I don't care what they do either way. I wasn't brought up like that, and I'm certainly not teaching my kids to live like that. We are all free to live and race the way we think is correct. I believe that sandbagging a half a second when "we haven't even pulled the valve covers off yet" is just like the food stamp Beamer driver, but I'm not going to call you a no good piece of crap because I don't agree with your stance on it.

Sean Cour · 03-12-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hagen Gary

I guess it's like when you see someone at the supermarket buying steak and shrimp on food stamp cards and paying for all their beer and cigs with their own money, then getting into their Beamer in the front row handy capped spot (even though clearly they are not handy capped). Some people will applaud them for gaming the system, others will call them no good pieces of crap. I don't care what they do either way. I wasn't brought up like that, and I'm certainly not teaching my kids to live like that. We are all free to live and race the way we think is correct. I believe that sandbagging a half a second when "we haven't even pulled the valve covers off yet" is just like the food stamp Beamer driver, but I'm not going to call you a no good piece of crap because I don't agree with your stance on it.

I like it!

Andrew Hill · 03-12-2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Cour

You're missing the point. There is just as many older combos "bagging" than there is newer combos. You know what's neat about this racing thing? They're available to anyone!

There's a difference between running an extra quart of oil and 50 lbs versus only running on 2 barrels of a 4 barrel throttle body

Jim Kaekel · 03-12-2013, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

I wonder how much a really trick 1970 442 Stocker would cost if I started building one today?

(Don't forget to include the price of a real 442 that is in at least very good condition)

Believe it or not, I originally paid $300.00 for my car. That was back in '81 and I've put plenty of good, old fashioned hard work into it since then. Of course in today's "instant gratification" society and courtesy of NHRA, you can now literally buy a turn-key race car..... if you have the funds.

Joseph Teuton · 03-12-2013, 02:55 PM

I guess I missed the statement that I made that said I sided with either side. But as mentioned before, Im not the brightest lightbulb in the lamp. I just dont understand how people can choose a car that is in the rule books and everyone has a problem with it. The new cars dont complain about having to wait at the tree for over 4 seconds at times.

Im also not sure how you can compair people getting over on the goverment and people who have found the area of a rule book that works for them. Usually the ones parking in the handicap spots, drive the benz's, and do the other stuff you listed are also one's complaing when their check that they say is "owed" to them is a day late. They also complain because some one else is doing better than them in life and they arent treated fair. This list could go one. Last I checked we ("new car guys that is") do not get anything from the goverment, nor do we expect people to just give us everything. We work just as hard at our jobs as we do on our race cars so we have CASH to buy whatever we need. We don't need a hand out.

Honestly you can call me whatever you like. If its wasnt in the rule books then we wouldnt be racing it. Im not going to get in a pissing match about how i was raised and yadda-yadda. We are not cheating, we are playing by the guidlines we ALL were giving. Yall choose to race what yall want and so do we.

Dont worry Hagan im not going to call you names or try to bash you. Glad to see your out racing again this year! Good Luck

Ed Wright · 03-12-2013, 03:03 PM

Nobody has any problems with how much money somebody else has, just the bogus low hp factors. That is NHRA's doing. Not yours. Doesn't make anybody like to race new cars heads up any better.

Btw, Jeff is one of my absolute favorite people to visit with at the track. Really good guy.

03-12-2013, 12:52 PM	#31
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Average year for the 10 @ LORDS2-2 If you are willing to write the check, it is the Easy Button. It's going to be a few years before most get enough HP to have to start thrashing headers, converters, camshafts, shocks, etc, to pick them up to be competitive in class or heads-ups. I'm not near fast enough, and have three sets of headers (need another), three intake manifolds, five camshafts, had three converters, three transmissions (different ratios) and need to test one more rear gear. I can go 1.05 under in the heat if I need to, and am dead meat in a heads-up against one of those things. Probably against Gary Emmons too. LOL __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

03-12-2013, 02:12 PM	#35
Hagen Gary Live Reporter Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cajun country Posts: 339 Likes: 51 Liked 34 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Average year for the 10 @ LORDS2-2 I guess it's like when you see someone at the supermarket buying steak and shrimp on food stamp cards and paying for all their beer and cigs with their own money, then getting into their Beamer in the front row handy capped spot (even though clearly they are not handy capped). Some people will applaud them for gaming the system, others will call them no good pieces of crap. I don't care what they do either way. I wasn't brought up like that, and I'm certainly not teaching my kids to live like that. We are all free to live and race the way we think is correct. I believe that sandbagging a half a second when "we haven't even pulled the valve covers off yet" is just like the food stamp Beamer driver, but I'm not going to call you a no good piece of crap because I don't agree with your stance on it.

03-12-2013, 02:55 PM	#39
Joseph Teuton Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: HOUMA, LA Posts: 440 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Average year for the 10 @ LORDS2-2 I guess I missed the statement that I made that said I sided with either side. But as mentioned before, Im not the brightest lightbulb in the lamp. I just dont understand how people can choose a car that is in the rule books and everyone has a problem with it. The new cars dont complain about having to wait at the tree for over 4 seconds at times. Im also not sure how you can compair people getting over on the goverment and people who have found the area of a rule book that works for them. Usually the ones parking in the handicap spots, drive the benz's, and do the other stuff you listed are also one's complaing when their check that they say is "owed" to them is a day late. They also complain because some one else is doing better than them in life and they arent treated fair. This list could go one. Last I checked we ("new car guys that is") do not get anything from the goverment, nor do we expect people to just give us everything. We work just as hard at our jobs as we do on our race cars so we have CASH to buy whatever we need. We don't need a hand out. Honestly you can call me whatever you like. If its wasnt in the rule books then we wouldnt be racing it. Im not going to get in a pissing match about how i was raised and yadda-yadda. We are not cheating, we are playing by the guidlines we ALL were giving. Yall choose to race what yall want and so do we. Dont worry Hagan im not going to call you names or try to bash you. Glad to see your out racing again this year! Good Luck __________________ JOSEPH TEUTON 4044 STK,SS,

03-12-2013, 03:03 PM	#40
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Average year for the 10 @ LORDS2-2 Nobody has any problems with how much money somebody else has, just the bogus low hp factors. That is NHRA's doing. Not yours. Doesn't make anybody like to race new cars heads up any better. Btw, Jeff is one of my absolute favorite people to visit with at the track. Really good guy. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA Last edited by Ed Wright; 03-12-2013 at 03:11 PM.