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Old 11-12-2015, 10:09 AM   #31
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NHRA, as far as I know, specifically states that drag racing is a dangerous activity with the possibility of serious injury or even death . (Or something like that). Fact of the matter is that there is no such thing as a safe race car or a safe race track.
I'm well aware of that, which is why I put "safe" in quotes every time. I am referring to a vehicle meeting the level of safety requirements prescribed by NHRA.

Again, the idea that I can go *faster* with a lower safety requirement if it had a different type engine in it is ridiculous. And in Jeff Ross's case, if his 318 was in a production street Challenger body instead of a DragPak Challenger body, the requirements magically change.

Is there a reason people are against having consistent, logical rules?
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:04 AM   #32
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Can't speak for others but I am not "against having consistent, logical rules".
I was just trying to explain how the ET vs equipment rules were explained to me when I was an NHRA techman. Guess I didn't do a very good job.
I agree they seem illogical but I think it is the easiest way for NHRA to enforce them.
Tech man or starting line/staging people look at the class on the window and know what equipment is needed.
As for the diff in the new classes vs traditional classes and the 318 example you used, I agree, it is illogical as we look at it. My GUESS is that when NHRA came up with the new classes someone took a stab at how fast the fastest car would be in the class and decided if it fell over or under 9.99. Can it be changed, yes. Will it be, ha.
There are other examples in SS of the equipment rules. If someone had an older SS/AA car (there is or was one in Div.ll) it was lumped into SS/AH when the class was made, no big deal until the fast ones started running quicker than 8.50. NHRA came out and said all SS/AH car have to certify to 8.49 which means funny car cage and other changes. If you are running 9.20 you still need to conform. Logical? No but easy to enforce.
Again Michael, I agree with you.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:35 AM   #33
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Michael, What is the different between street Challenger and the Dragpak body in SS? Hood? Tom
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Old 11-12-2015, 01:25 PM   #34
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Michael, What is the different between street Challenger and the Dragpak body in SS? Hood? Tom
For 2009/10 dragpaks had the prone to crack liftoff carbon fiber hood, a half inch less wheelbase, lexan or something like it door windows, massaged trans tunnel section, and a really sweet tag instead of a VIN.

For 2011 I don't know about the wheel base, but its a street RT hood with hinges.

And before anyone continues this line of thought, I was told last year that you can't "create" a street Challenger out of a dragpak, have to have the Vin.

Sort of a throwback to earlier times when the VIN had to match the body style and engine claimed. Before 6 cylinder cars became so common.

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Old 11-13-2015, 11:22 AM   #35
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Jeff I sent you a PM.
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