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Old 02-12-2016, 09:44 AM   #31
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Default Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index?

Chuck Rayburn is the only AA car that ran it out. Everybody else lifted.
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Old 02-12-2016, 12:39 PM   #32
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That good info to have Floyd, what was their perspective miles per hour?
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Old 02-12-2016, 02:38 PM   #33
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The sheets on line don't show mph. But listening to the announcer yesterday he was saying who was out of it early.
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Old 02-12-2016, 04:02 PM   #34
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Doubt anyone lifted because they were worried about triggering a review.
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Old 02-14-2016, 12:29 PM   #35
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Chuck Rayburn is the only AA car that ran it out. Everybody else lifted.

Pretty sure Chuck is backing up his argument with ET. Very impressive car but so is that White Camaro!
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Old 02-25-2016, 01:22 PM   #36
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Got a nice E mail from Pat Cvengros today and I thank him for his time and consideration.

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After thoroughly reviewing your request, lengthy discussions, and feedback from additional AA Stock competitors we will not be changing the index.

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That's to bad. I was looking forward to the PAPER CAR class at Indy. - Rayburn, Bailey, Little, Yo Ken, Shaul, Madison, Barton, Noland, McClanahan, maybe a couple more. We'll see how many show up in AA trim now......
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Yes Jim I'm quite sure the class @ Indy will be loaded with all the DNQ specials..
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Old 02-26-2016, 07:28 AM   #38
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Got a nice E mail from Pat Cvengros today and I thank him for his time and consideration.

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After thoroughly reviewing your request, lengthy discussions, and feedback from additional AA Stock competitors we will not be changing the index.

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That's to bad. I was looking forward to the PAPER CAR class at Indy. - Rayburn, Bailey, Little, Yo Ken, Shaul, Madison, Barton, Noland, McClanahan, maybe a couple more. We'll see how many show up in AA trim now......
Regular answer from these guys. I always wonder who are these mystery "competitors"? Do they keep them in a room somewhere? The majority of the AA racers want a more realistic index, so who are the "competitors"? When you look at it from the ahfs perspective the AA classes get a real break so we might as well look at it that way, save Indy.
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Old 02-26-2016, 02:58 PM   #39
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Guess I don't understand the logic, how can it make any sense to take out 200 lbs. and take a .4 hit on the index. I thought the AA class was created so that the new cars had a class to participate in stock without weighing 5000 lbs.. Now that all the new cars are in their own class does it not make since that the index for AA be in line with the rest of the indexes? Kind of the same thing that happened to the Hemi's in SS. Their index gets busted .25 for qualifying at the top, then they get the additional .3 when they changed all the indexes. The fastest Hemi qualifier at Indy last year was 106 and the winner of the Hemi shootout qualified 120th. Jim Bailey, were you part of the 'lengthy discussion' with NHRA? Inquiring minds want to know .. NHRA & IHRA did a great job of killing Top Stock too ...
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Another voice of reason has spoken and put it all in perspective.
Great post Mr Beach!
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