Trustart Debate - Page 4

Jeff Stout · 01-17-2017, 10:58 AM

You guys are not suggesting that the fast guys changing tire rule is about personal agenda? If I remember SOME of the fast guys were crying that Tru Start was about slow cars personal agenda and to go away and quit whining. Never seen a single sided double edge sword. Amazing

Randall Klein · 01-17-2017, 11:02 AM

Bickering over such a minor deal with almost no real world impact, your agendas are showing, as a famous writer once said:"methinks you doth protest too much"

I would guess that people named Biondo, Seipel & Brockmeier will eventually get this accepted, no matter what anyone posts.

Ed Wright · 01-17-2017, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Mark,
I honestly don't care at this point. Seriously. The red light thing is the least of the worries for class racing. I suppose it makes for a great distraction. Never mind everything else that is wrong, let's worry about a red light rule that has been the same for about 50 years. I'm over it. We can move on to the next whine fest.

Wind effects fast cars, so does track prep.

It's just a different set of drawbacks, depending on what choices you make. If you're making excuses, you'll never fix your program.

I agree. Many of the slower class guys seem to think they have all the disadvantages. Faster cars just have a different set of issues. I most always leave first, and am not interested I changing over. I can not remember one round when it would have effected the outcome for me. It has been First or Worst since I started racing in the early 1960s. If I go red, I'm kicking myself, not hoping the other guy is redder. I'm not looking for a participant trophy.

Mickey Whaley · 01-17-2017, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Its all about money with a move are they gonna change the amount of a dollar also?

Mickey Whaley · 01-17-2017, 11:33 AM

[QUOTE=Mickey Whaley;524453]This is funny

Michael Compton · 01-17-2017, 11:53 AM

I truly do not care which way it goes. I have to cut a light and run the number. Isn't that what we all have to do anyway? Being a faster car is not the ultimate advantage. In 2016, I think I left first 1 time. Being the second to leave takes serious concentration because of the slower car moving first. Track prep, wind, lanes, etc all have an effect on faster and slower cars.

Having grown up in this sport, we should be more concerned with the direction NHRA is going. Reduced car counts, less tech, terrible division directors, sub-par tracks, and so on should be what we are concerned about. Not whether or not Tru-Start is in effect or not. The same guys that win now, will win even if Tru-Start is in effect. Mainly because those guys are working on becoming better drivers year in and year out. Not asking for rules to be changed to accommodate their personal agenda.

Just my .02
Michael

Billy Nees · 01-17-2017, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Compton

Having grown up in this sport, we should be more concerned with the direction NHRA is going. Reduced car counts, less tech, terrible division directors, sub-par tracks, and so on should be what we are concerned about. Not whether or not Tru-Start is in effect or not.Michael

Now, I'll hoist a double-shot of Cuervo to that! good words. I've said enough about this subject.

Bunkster · 01-17-2017, 01:15 PM

"I have to cut a light and run the number. Isn't that what we all have to do anyway?"

No, and that's the the point. Cutting a light and running the number are two fundamentals that every person involved in a handicapped race should be subjected to.

Mickey Whaley · 01-17-2017, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

I'm with alan

novassdude · 01-17-2017, 04:03 PM

If I have this correct only one of the timing systems have this feature. I do believe there is more than one timing system being used at NHRA member tracks. So how do you make a change like this across the board? Do you require all tracks to buy a new system if they don't already have the correct one? I thought I seen in one of the threads that the upgrade is $3000 if you have the right system.

01-17-2017, 10:58 AM	#31
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,484 Likes: 65 Liked 704 Times in 281 Posts	Re: Trustart Debate You guys are not suggesting that the fast guys changing tire rule is about personal agenda? If I remember SOME of the fast guys were crying that Tru Start was about slow cars personal agenda and to go away and quit whining. Never seen a single sided double edge sword. Amazing

01-17-2017, 11:02 AM	#32
Randall Klein Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 785 Likes: 45 Liked 316 Times in 67 Posts	Re: Trustart Debate Bickering over such a minor deal with almost no real world impact, your agendas are showing, as a famous writer once said:"methinks you doth protest too much" I would guess that people named Biondo, Seipel & Brockmeier will eventually get this accepted, no matter what anyone posts.

01-17-2017, 11:33 AM	#35
Mickey Whaley VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,220 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Trustart Debate [QUOTE=Mickey Whaley;524453]This is funny

01-17-2017, 11:53 AM	#36
Michael Compton Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Neosho, MO Posts: 215 Likes: 0 Liked 59 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Trustart Debate I truly do not care which way it goes. I have to cut a light and run the number. Isn't that what we all have to do anyway? Being a faster car is not the ultimate advantage. In 2016, I think I left first 1 time. Being the second to leave takes serious concentration because of the slower car moving first. Track prep, wind, lanes, etc all have an effect on faster and slower cars. Having grown up in this sport, we should be more concerned with the direction NHRA is going. Reduced car counts, less tech, terrible division directors, sub-par tracks, and so on should be what we are concerned about. Not whether or not Tru-Start is in effect or not. The same guys that win now, will win even if Tru-Start is in effect. Mainly because those guys are working on becoming better drivers year in and year out. Not asking for rules to be changed to accommodate their personal agenda. Just my .02 Michael

01-17-2017, 01:15 PM	#38
Bunkster Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 307 Likes: 0 Liked 43 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Trustart Debate "I have to cut a light and run the number. Isn't that what we all have to do anyway?" No, and that's the the point. Cutting a light and running the number are two fundamentals that every person involved in a handicapped race should be subjected to.

01-17-2017, 04:03 PM	#40
novassdude Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: usa Posts: 752 Likes: 204 Liked 136 Times in 49 Posts	Re: Trustart Debate If I have this correct only one of the timing systems have this feature. I do believe there is more than one timing system being used at NHRA member tracks. So how do you make a change like this across the board? Do you require all tracks to buy a new system if they don't already have the correct one? I thought I seen in one of the threads that the upgrade is $3000 if you have the right system.