302 fffords - Page 4

Ed Fernandez · 08-21-2019, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Last year's number 1 was a race car (truck)
Maybe you better define "race car" for the sake of this discussion

Markie, I thing James used the wrong wording. I think it should be " cars with bogus HP factors". When I ran the gremlin I was originally factored at 160 hp. I got 5 hp off then 5 hp more, which I think was reasonable for a 6 cylinder with a carb that flowed 287 cfm. Then the FFFFords were given the gift of God and poof.Only my humble opinion.

Bob Shaw · 08-21-2019, 07:00 PM

Mark,
I think real race cars run 10.50 and quicker.

Billy Nees · 08-21-2019, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Shaw

Mark,
I think real race cars run 10.50 and quicker.

Where is the real Bob Shaw and what have you done to him??????

Glenn Briglio · 08-21-2019, 09:26 PM

10.50 in the eighth

Carguy49 · 08-22-2019, 11:39 AM

If the vehicle is in the guide then it is a race car/truck, right?? Not everyone can afford a $100,000 race car. The diversity of the cars is what keeps Stock interesting. Whether it is a Pinto wagon, Malibu station wagon or a Chevy or Dodge truck have fun with it. Work on it until it is FAST.

Yes, some combos are FAST because of the H.P. rating and that needs to be fixed.

HawkBrosMav · 08-22-2019, 12:46 PM

I'm with the crowd that believes ALL class winners should be in the eliminator and then fill the rest of the field with quickest qualifiers from there. ALL classes with single entries goes into Auto or Stick combo classes to get a single car in as and "automatic" qualifier.

This only matters at INDY (unless I'm unaware of another race they let in over 128 cars).

Every class winner to be torn down with R-up to follow in tear down if and only if winner is found to be illegal.

to include this new cylinder head enforcement to the mix... I think if the cylinder heads are brought back in line with the rules the indexes don't need changing.. start enforcing the rules already written and the cars won't be going 1.2+ under unless they're failing tear down after.

Ed Fernandez · 08-22-2019, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carguy49

If the vehicle is in the guide then it is a race car/truck, right?? Not everyone can afford a $100,000 race car. The diversity of the cars is what keeps Stock interesting. Whether it is a Pinto wagon, Malibu station wagon or a Chevy or Dodge truck have fun with it. Work on it until it is FAST.

Yes, some combos are FAST because of the H.P. rating and that needs to be fixed.

Well at least someone commented on where my post was going.

James Perrone · 08-23-2019, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Last year's number 1 was a race car (truck)
Maybe you better define "race car" for the sake of this discussion

A race car is something with 8 spark plugs.
Rear wheel drive. Not a 2 barrel.
It’s a CAR. That sound badass.
Not some soft POS that can go 2 seconds under.
Basically the crap you call a race car.

Billy Nees · 08-23-2019, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone

A race car is something with 8 spark plugs.
Rear wheel drive. Not a 2 barrel.
It’s a CAR. That sound badass.
Not some soft POS that can go 2 seconds under.
Basically the crap you call a race car.

Hey! Buddy!

Bob Shaw · 08-23-2019, 06:35 PM

Now we know what a race car is.. I didn't realize that they don't have to be fast.

08-21-2019, 07:00 PM	#32
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08-22-2019, 11:39 AM	#35
Carguy49 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fife, Washington Posts: 1,978 Likes: 2,469 Liked 2,946 Times in 708 Posts	Re: 302 fffords If the vehicle is in the guide then it is a race car/truck, right?? Not everyone can afford a $100,000 race car. The diversity of the cars is what keeps Stock interesting. Whether it is a Pinto wagon, Malibu station wagon or a Chevy or Dodge truck have fun with it. Work on it until it is FAST. Yes, some combos are FAST because of the H.P. rating and that needs to be fixed. __________________ Ron McDowell - Did Race Every day is a Gift - Enjoy with family and friends.

08-22-2019, 12:46 PM	#36
HawkBrosMav Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 362 Likes: 6 Liked 302 Times in 73 Posts	Re: 302 fffords I'm with the crowd that believes ALL class winners should be in the eliminator and then fill the rest of the field with quickest qualifiers from there. ALL classes with single entries goes into Auto or Stick combo classes to get a single car in as and "automatic" qualifier. This only matters at INDY (unless I'm unaware of another race they let in over 128 cars). Every class winner to be torn down with R-up to follow in tear down if and only if winner is found to be illegal. to include this new cylinder head enforcement to the mix... I think if the cylinder heads are brought back in line with the rules the indexes don't need changing.. start enforcing the rules already written and the cars won't be going 1.2+ under unless they're failing tear down after.

08-23-2019, 06:35 PM	#40
Bob Shaw Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sedalia, Mo Posts: 436 Likes: 329 Liked 316 Times in 61 Posts	Re: 302 fffords Now we know what a race car is.. I didn't realize that they don't have to be fast. __________________ Bob Shaw V/SA 515 Last edited by Bob Shaw; 08-23-2019 at 06:37 PM. Reason: Added information