Pump gas in stock

[Signman]

I get this discussion is about making pump gas legal but NHRA fuel test fails oxygenate additives and they don't seem interested in a better device.



A few years back VP was promoting C9 which is high octane unleaded gasoline with no additives. 100% gasoline no oxygenates. It was marketed to circle track who had embraced it and Stock Eliminator. At the time was looking at fuels and asking questions while building a good engine.



NO it was not as fast as C11 but it did not have any of the corrosive additives. Could still run a second under the tuneup developing had good potential to go rounds plus it is lower cost. Won class at a national event with it which netted some help from VP in product and tech.



NHRA removed C9 and a Sunoco equivalent from the accepted fuel list because it did not test consistently national event to national event plus NO ONE WAS RUNNING IT! Very few racers would be affected.



In division one the only other person I met who admitted using it was a small inch heavy upper class racer. He had similar results and liked it for similar reasons. Trying to help promote the fuel over the few years it was on the list the question always was IS IT FASTER of course the answer was no so off to the C11 drum they went.

[Dave Gantz]

Originally Posted by SST3193

Friend raced carts and they all brought fuel, it all went into the same big container. Everyone run that same fuel and whatever else was put in that fuel tanker. Certainly Sunoco ( or Whoever) would love to be seen dispensing fuel from a pretty fuel tanker.
Some deal along those lines could work but, OHHHH the bitchin’!

If everyone brought their own fuel to NHRA races, and it was all dumped into one container; the explosion could be seen from outer space!

[Rsmith38]

Originally Posted by Signman

I get this discussion is about making pump gas legal but NHRA fuel test fails oxygenate additives and they don't seem interested in a better device.



A few years back VP was promoting C9 which is high octane unleaded gasoline with no additives. 100% gasoline no oxygenates. It was marketed to circle track who had embraced it and Stock Eliminator. At the time was looking at fuels and asking questions while building a good engine.



NO it was not as fast as C11 but it did not have any of the corrosive additives. Could still run a second under the tuneup developing had good potential to go rounds plus it is lower cost. Won class at a national event with it which netted some help from VP in product and tech.



NHRA removed C9 and a Sunoco equivalent from the accepted fuel list because it did not test consistently national event to national event plus NO ONE WAS RUNNING IT! Very few racers would be affected.



In division one the only other person I met who admitted using it was a small inch heavy upper class racer. He had similar results and liked it for similar reasons. Trying to help promote the fuel over the few years it was on the list the question always was IS IT FASTER of course the answer was no so off to the C11 drum they went.

I was using C9 when I was #1 Qualifier at Epping in R/SA. The next year at the epping natinal at fuel check they said C9 is not on the approved list? Took 2 weeks before Brian got back to me and said no one was using it??? Had to switch to C10. Us little Guys don't count!!!
1051 Q/SA

[SSGN]

Just a thought but would it not be easier and cheaper for NHRA to put pump gas in everyone's cars in the lanes or in the pits. One fuel for everyone, seal or lock the cap. If you need fuel for the weekend you get more and they seal the cap.
In a record or heads up run the fuel would be checked. The cost of fuel is getting crazy even at the pumps.

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by Signman

I get this discussion is about making pump gas legal but NHRA fuel test fails oxygenate additives and they don't seem interested in a better device.



A few years back VP was promoting C9 which is high octane unleaded gasoline with no additives. 100% gasoline no oxygenates. It was marketed to circle track who had embraced it and Stock Eliminator. At the time was looking at fuels and asking questions while building a good engine.



NO it was not as fast as C11 but it did not have any of the corrosive additives. Could still run a second under the tuneup developing had good potential to go rounds plus it is lower cost. Won class at a national event with it which netted some help from VP in product and tech.



NHRA removed C9 and a Sunoco equivalent from the accepted fuel list because it did not test consistently national event to national event plus NO ONE WAS RUNNING IT! Very few racers would be affected.



In division one the only other person I met who admitted using it was a small inch heavy upper class racer. He had similar results and liked it for similar reasons. Trying to help promote the fuel over the few years it was on the list the question always was IS IT FASTER of course the answer was no so off to the C11 drum they went.

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[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by SSGN

Just a thought but would it not be easier and cheaper for NHRA to put pump gas in everyone's cars in the lanes or in the pits. One fuel for everyone, seal or lock the cap. If you need fuel for the weekend you get more and they seal the cap.
In a record or heads up run the fuel would be checked. The cost of fuel is getting crazy even at the pumps.

What about the cars that need more octane ?

[MR DERBY CITY]

All in all, I believe the current system works well. Can you imagine what would happen if the rule book state...Any fuel allowed…..The THRIFTY racers would be running pump gas, AND the BIG DOGS would be spending $$ on exotic brands and many racers would be spending more $$ trying to keep up with the JONES …..

[Darrel Goheen]

I would vote for any fuel allowed. With everything else that’s allowed, why not fuel? I think they only check fuel because it’s relatively easy to do.

[tavirace]

I knew a guy years ago ran a low compression car, went more rounds than expected and got low on fuel. Had to do something so siphoned unleaded regular out of the tow vehicle, broke out by over a tenth !

[Signman]

Originally Posted by Rsmith38

I was using C9 when I was #1 Qualifier at Epping in R/SA. The next year at the epping natinal at fuel check they said C9 is not on the approved list? Took 2 weeks before Brian got back to me and said no one was using it??? Had to switch to C10. Us little Guys don't count!!!
1051 Q/SA

So there were 3 of us!

For me it was at Maple Grove points race first race of the season. Went to fuel check not in the book and didn't know why. Rick helped out got an answer from Len Imbrogno later in the day: not checking consistently event to event plus no one was using it determined by fuel check records.

The purpose of my post above was not to complain but point out that a low octane fuel was on the list readily available from VP and SUNOCO but no one used it. It was lower cost 100% gasoline with no corrosive chemicals no one ran it!

The last season I ran before taking a couple off to move was using C10 it was developing well but not much lower cost than C11. Since my combo got some HP have to run with the big boys now so am not going to worry about protecting and saving 10 bucks on fuel. Just going to have fun.