Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races

[Dave Ribeiro]

Len,
I think GP. Hill had the real answer, count all runs at National events... Maybe we need to toss racers for lifting @ 1000' and anyone running more than 75 lbs. heavy is tossed. Maybe the tear-downs should start with the bottom 20 guys first and see how the fast they change their positions...I feel all these things would help...What do you think.... Dave,

[Blingmaster]

Footnote: When I mentioned free ride I meant you were autmatically in the show did not have to gualify.......DD

[Bryan Worner]

I also want to add that I believe there should be a factor added to the AHFS for weather conditions! That has been brought up numerous times and shot down! Also, runs at factored tracks should be counted! If you can set a record at -1.40 than why shouldn't you get horsepower???

[Byron Worner]

Send your emails to Len on this issue. That is where your voice will be heard. I emailed him today and got a response back.

[Jeff Teuton]

Let's see; presently someone can run as fast as they want at a factored track, can run 1.399 under at a points race ( and sometime collect MONEY for No 1), and then go to national events and slow down to 90 under until needed for class. This picture don't look right. The good air at non-factored tracks is a problem. What we got now ain't working. Make some changes.

[Andys dad]

It seems to me that with all the controversy -

The simplest thing NHRA could do is -

Eliminate class racing and heads up races in eliminations.

No need to ever adjust HP

All that would be left is class records

How many classes have more than a couple of "hot dogs" that are the "class" of the class.

Every one of them would draw fire here on this forum.

Back off guys - be careful what you wish for - ggeezzee.

I am sorry but I just had to say this.

Now let her rip...

[Stock 5 point 0]

I am new to stock. What does AHFS stand for ? Please don't make fun of me for not knowing like I said I am new to this

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Dave Layer

Bruce
I don't have clue, must be one of those internal things.

Jeremy
Amen

Harry 6674
How about 64 car qualified fields?

We need the keep "PERFORMANCE" in Stock and Super Stock. Let the Bracket competetors (I can't call them racers) go bracket race, There are plenty of them to go to. Stock and Super Stock will be fine with out them.

Last time I looked it was 2007,not 1967.So all of us poor,
as in I dont have the money for a set of $3,000 heads
and "special" stock elim. pistons,etc. etc. RACERS dont
belong in S/SS according to the head GOD.You want to go fast maybe You should build a SS/AH car or a comp car.
Everybody Isn't Daddy Warbucksin S/SS.It seems like a bunch of mainly old hasbeens resent the fact that their little world was invaded by racers who go rounds and win races and championships.
Maybe Mr. Heads Up shold just go on a "Pinks" tour in 2008.
Kevlar underwear on,flame away............


Ed F.
NHRA #1945
IHRA #14
T/SA

[Doug Blackley]

Originally Posted by Stock 5 point 0

I am new to stock. What does AHFS stand for ? Please don't make fun of me for not knowing like I said I am new to this

while the official meaning is Automatic Horsepower Factoring System; it mostly seems like Automatic Help For Slugs lol.

[Len Imbrogno]

Mr. Noland and Mr. Layer,

No, it's not an "internal thing". It appears that we are speaking about two seperate issues. These are the facts:

NHRA tech did a survey which asked for input on the following: A- adjust the index by .20 and move the trigger to 1.00, B- adjust the index to .20 and leave the trigger at 1.15 or, C- No changes and leave the trigger at 1.15. As I thought I clearly stated earlier in this thread, the majority voted for C- no changes and leave the trigger at 1.15

Regarding the seperate issue of applying the AHFS to division events and/or national opens as well as using the 1.15 at such events, at no time did I ever post that "the majority of the racers were not for it". Using the AHFS at division events was suggested by the S/SS committee. It was not "the work of Len and Wesley". As a matter of fact, as I mentioned to a "well known engine builder", it was the result of numerous racers asking for this over the last several years. However, it has never been finalized and would not be until, as I also stated previously on this thread, "it would be posted on the NHRA website for racers to review".

The NHRA tech department will soon be posting a revised AHFS system on the website and in National Dragster for all to see and give their respective input.