Warning on contingency wraps

[HR9121]

Robin I can appreciate where you're coming from on this and your point of view is certainly from someone who has dealt with this firsthand. Rules are rules most definitely and hopefully since NHRA is being so diligent these days maybe they will apply this to some real meaningful stuff as well. I don't think we're talking halfsize decals but nonetheless they were undersized.
Now that they are being so careful about the contingency program maybe they can get the checks out more promptly. Last time I collected contingency it took months and alot of emails to get my money. It really wasn't about the money but the principal of it you know since I was careful to have the proper size decals lol. I didn't start this thread as much as a bitch session but as a warning since I know quite a few have been using the wraps hopefully this will save someone else a few pennies. Myself personally I have some body work coming up and I think I will be going clean afterwards.

[Rich Biebel]

I raced for many many years and can tell you first hand the contingency program is a hollow shell of what it once was.

Do what they require and that's your only chance at collecting

I won't go into a rant about why the program is what it is today but trust me it was far better in the golden era.....

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Craig Porter

I appreciate the companies that post and pay us ! If I had a company that post I would want the decal to be the proper size for my product . We need to follow the rules before the program is gone .

Hi Craig
This is so very true.
Several decades ago, when there was maybe a half dozen Nat's a year, guys like Duffy and Hooker Headers would run full size ads in ND ,with pictures , of the award winners.
Now ,with a race every other week, and with the status of the current Ragster, it just doesn't happen anymore.
So, now that we have very few spectators at Divs , fuel crazed fans at the Nats that don't even stay in the stands for Pro /Stock, I don't see very much value in the NHRA shakedown, I mean program.
So, yes..Follow the rules and hope for the best in the future

[Crisco]

Chase @ Accelerated Graphics told me that wraps were fine if the decal was the correct size per the original decal. His wraps are like this.

When I paid contingency for NHRA @ Nitroplate (miss those days), I didn't wait on NHRA to send me the info. I looked at DRC every Sunday night, made my list of W/RU and Monday morning we were writing checks....with approved decal of course. :-)

[Robin Lawrence]

So I posted about the size of the decal and the contract with NHRA. As someone mentioned it was good that NHRA was stepping up to make sure that the rules were followed.
As to payment, it is up to the individual companies to make the payouts per the postings. When a vendor signs up with NHRA they pay a fee to be a contingency partner. There are other benefits that NHRA provides in those programs as well.
An example would be midway display space as well as tickets to events based on their spend/program.

Several years ago there was a company that posted for several of their products. I was told that they never paid any contingency. Yet they signed up the following year. Since I wasn't directly involved, I won't name the company.

My opinion is that if companies don't pay their postings then NHRA needs to not allow them to post.

I think that this was addressed several years ago. I am sure that someone here knows the full story.

The contingency administrator from my previous employer processes the payments once she received the sheets from NHRA. Once she has all the information such as W9's she submits them to accounts payable to generate the payment. It goes into the payment cycle which can then get the racer paid.
If NHRA is late, or busy with many events, or if our lady missed the window for the next check run it can add time to the process.

Hats off to those companies that set aside a separate account and cut the checks shortly after an event.
If someone doesn't pay let NHRA know. They were very good about follow-up on racers who contacted them when they were not paid.

Robin

[Don Kennedy]

Can I get paid for all the other times the decal is being shown not just when I win just asking for a friend ????

[BG56]

Back in the day I, as well as many other letterers were hand-painting the decals. I tried to make sure sizes and styles were correct to protect the racer/customer. Mainly because I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO REMOVE AND RE-DO THEM! Of course many of the dragster guys(and smaller cars) were searching for the smallest versions and even trimming them down to fit. Even more crucial today!!

[Joe Santangelo]

Originally Posted by Robin Lawrence

So I posted about the size of the decal and the contract with NHRA. As someone mentioned it was good that NHRA was stepping up to make sure that the rules were followed.
As to payment, it is up to the individual companies to make the payouts per the postings. When a vendor signs up with NHRA they pay a fee to be a contingency partner. There are other benefits that NHRA provides in those programs as well.
An example would be midway display space as well as tickets to events based on their spend/program.

Several years ago there was a company that posted for several of their products. I was told that they never paid any contingency. Yet they signed up the following year. Since I wasn't directly involved, I won't name the company.

My opinion is that if companies don't pay their postings then NHRA needs to not allow them to post.

I think that this was addressed several years ago. I am sure that someone here knows the full story.

The contingency administrator from my previous employer processes the payments once she received the sheets from NHRA. Once she has all the information such as W9's she submits them to accounts payable to generate the payment. It goes into the payment cycle which can then get the racer paid.
If NHRA is late, or busy with many events, or if our lady missed the window for the next check run it can add time to the process.

Hats off to those companies that set aside a separate account and cut the checks shortly after an event.
If someone doesn't pay let NHRA know. They were very good about follow-up on racers who contacted them when they were not paid.

Robin

Hey Robin. As far as you know, are there any penalties for a company when they don’t pay a racers contingency claim after a racer has provided everything required to collect a claim, or several claims? I don’t believe there is but figured you would know better than me with your experience on the business side. If there were no repercussions for me if i decided not to pay my taxes or other bills, I wouldn’t pay them either.

[Crisco]

Originally Posted by Joe Santangelo

Hey Robin. As far as you know, are there any penalties for a company when they don’t pay a racers contingency claim after a racer has provided everything required to collect a claim, or several claims? I don’t believe there is but figured you would know better than me with your experience on the business side. If there were no repercussions for me if i decided not to pay my taxes or other bills, I wouldn’t pay them either.

Joe, no there isn't any penalties for non payment....at least there wasn't when I was paying.

[Robin Lawrence]

Originally Posted by Joe Santangelo

Hey Robin. As far as you know, are there any penalties for a company when they don’t pay a racers contingency claim after a racer has provided everything required to collect a claim, or several claims? I don’t believe there is but figured you would know better than me with your experience on the business side. If there were no repercussions for me if i decided not to pay my taxes or other bills, I wouldn’t pay them either.

As said above, there are no penalties for not paying. NHRA was diligent about forwarding the racers complaints or questions when they were not paid.

We had several who were claiming our parts that were fraud. I was tasked with sorting those out. Not fun

As I mentioned I would suggest that NHRA have a non renewal policy on anyone with a clear history of not paying the racers.

Robin