GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Rat Raceway

Ok then tell me why Dave Connolly says in the interview at sema with GM. (I will find the video when I get to a PC, on a iPad) I pulled up to the line and the tires come up, the way it came from chevy.
Here is the video hell it even says tuned by Brian Macy... Turn up the sound. That car has a three speed and a lose vert.

I just increased the font size, and changed the color to red. You posted it.

[Rat Raceway]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

I just increased the font size, and changed the color to red. You posted it.

Your missing the point and just want to argue.

So is a three speed the way it came from Chevy and that's truthful?

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Gump,
A revisionist eh. You were for the FX cars? When?

Do a search.

You were up to your eyeballs in begging Chevrolet to get the Camaro into this mess. Have you forgotten all your posts on this subject? Chevrolet said for several years that they were not coming out to play in this mess and you and others kept after them. So yes you deserve as much of the credit for this mess in Stock as anybody else.

Call it begging if you like. I am happy with my COPO.

And as far as the specs for these new cars, they were dictated by Ford and then Mopar came in and now Chevrolet . nhra simply swallowed and took what was given to them. So you guys have alot to be proud of. You're all cocky now cuz you can run your little factory hot rods all over the little guys but what happens in 7 or 8 years? History is what happens. And your names will go down in infamy for bringing on the demise of a truly great community of racers. And we'll be here to remind you. If you like it or not. Enjoy yourself.

This is a very sad quote. I wish you all the best in life, but I will never respond to any more of what comes from you. You are a very little man.

[boostedf22c]

Anyone else's head hurt reading this thread or is it just me?

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Rat Raceway

Your missing the point and just want to argue.

So is a three speed the way it came from Chevy and that's truthful?

The word is "you're", not "your".

You came into this thread claiming that the two cars in question had $100K spent on each of them, and were "ground up BIW builds", all of that being done in two weeks.

And you claim others are missing the point and want to argue?

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Rat Raceway

Ok then tell me why Dave Connolly says in the interview at sema with GM. (I will find the video when I get to a PC, on a iPad) I pulled up to the line and the tires come up, the way it came from chevy.
Here is the video hell it even says tuned by Brian Macy... Turn up the sound. That car has a three speed and a lose vert.

Cavnazzi's car was tuned by Brian Macy, but Patterson's tune was untouched until I tweaked it a little at the rained out Topeka div race on the way to Indy. A GM rep told them to not go a second under at Indy, which made Connolly very unhappy. They would both go 1+ under, and Parrerson's engine had never been out of the car at that time. Are they way under-rated? Absolutely!

[Charley Downing]

Greg you and Andrew both want a unlevel playing field, that is why you never run your cars all out. If you get HP on your combo you won't have that advantage over slower cars in your class. Your just like everyone else. Get off your high horse. I will play by any rules NHRA puts in place. Because I love to race.

[chevy620]

I don't race Stock anymore but it's not the new cars that ruined it for me, it was the heads-up races in eliminations, simply took too much money to try to keep the car fast enopugh to protect your expenses and race for a purse that is less than my local bracket track pays every weekend.

Do you guys EVER see each other at the track????????????? That could get interesting with the attitudes you have on a keyboard.

The "Deal" has been struck by NHRA to get the factories involved, get over it. Want to fix the issue, don't support NHRA events and let them know every week why 200 of you are staying home from their events.

Money is the only pressure NHRA can bend over for. It has always been that way (SFI rules for seatbelts, the old muffler rule, trans shields that "wear out" in 5 years, etc, etc.) and it will always be that way as they need more cash to operate.

It wouldn't surprise me if they drop Stock/Super Stock becasue of the rule enforcement personnel it takes and the constant complaining. Add another 100 Super Class, Top Dragster, Top Sportsman and footbrake racers to a National Event and those spectators won't notice a thing. Sad day if it happens, but in my opinion it is a viable option for them.

Jok

[H Hoover]

Originally Posted by boostedf22c

Anyone else's head hurt reading this thread or is it just me?

I'm with you on that. But since it's winter and theres nothing else to do car wise, this is cheap entertainment. Keep up the good work!

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by GUMP

Do a search.




Call it begging if you like. I am happy with my COPO.




This is a very sad quote. I wish you all the best in life, but I will never respond to any more of what comes from you. You are a very little man.

I started the first FX thread. You and I bumped heads over the course of that entire thread. So, I guess you'll write a letter like Greg suggested.

Funny, I think you are a very little man for what you have done to our category. It's sad that you have to express yourself with factory hot rods to take advantage of fellow racers. You guys are killing an entire category with 1,000+ racers and all you think of is yourselves. Now that is sad!

And there are more than just a dozen of us that feel this way - there are over 1,000 of us but they are smart enough not to come out here and butt heads with you hot dogs.