We need a new "instant" trigger!

[Blingmaster]

Guys It is quite simple do your homework like Bob has done follow through with an untried combo willing to take the disappointment if it doesn't go 2 seconds under and race. I made the statement at Gainesville divisional race I believed I saw more 69 camaros running in stock than GM produced in 1969. Neil Smedley and myself talked about that Shaw combo before Shaw brought it out. There are a couple more combo's out there better than the caddy. Just do not feel like building one....Realize that if Bob had to run off current national record he would only be 7tenths under...7tenths under current index would not get you into Indy.....

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Y'all are missing the point. Bob Shaw built that car, knowing it was going to be real heavy for "U". He can't run V anyway.It's a V8 .
I'm sure he doesn't have a weight box either. What do you want to tell him? He can't race?
If the car is 400 heavy with no ballast , the hp % is irrelevant, or atleast off the charts.

If that's the case then if Tech can verify that the car is that heavy without ballast then I dont see a problem with an exclusion for that combo.I dont think many cars fit into that scenario.That would also be a good time to try and put a more realistic HP # on that combo.

Ed F.

[Dave Ribeiro]

Billy.... I think your ideas are good, but it aeems like we are trying to solve all the problems at once...

1) No-HP or factoring til the engine has passed teardown... No- exceptions !!!!!!

2) Forget about factored tracks ... You will never win that one...

3) Let's try and change the things we can , stop worrying about the 3-4 single car
combo's.... You are always going to have those problems....

4) I think Yac's idea about 4 times a year review is a good idea...

5) This might be the time to look at combining stick / auto's at one or two opens
and see how it works...?

6) Terry 's idea of lowering the index is also a good one ... I thought that was
already voted on, how come it never happened ....?

* I am sure there will be many ideas, maybe our reps can chime in if they still
have a Job... ?

We have to start somewhere, who knows in a couple of years it might work... Take little steps first , then improve as you go.... We do need a good shot in the arm in our sport, or we won't have to worry about racing at all .......

Last but not least, make sure we all support our Regional Sportsman Racing Groups,
they are our best option for the FUTURE.......... Just something to think about ?

[Michael Beard]

What does lowering the index have to do with anything? If you lower all the indexes by ONE SECOND, then the -1.40 under cars are still .040 faster than the -1.00 under cars. If you don't change the 1.15/1.40 triggers then all you've done is guaranteed that no car will ever be re-factored. If you *do* change the triggers by the same amount, then you haven't really changed anything. It's a barometer. The calibration is irrelevant.

[B Aceves]

[QUOTE=Billy Nees;111654]OK everybody, The -1.40 trigger is taking too long to catch up to all of the "soft" combos out there! Any suggestions? OBTW we're talking Stock and SS![/QUO

Ya, Dont work on your stuff, Sell it and build something you think you know is a soft combo and
TRY to make it go fast!!

[Billy Nees]

B Aceves, Ya know? It never dawned on me till you put it to me that way! I'm a stupid, lazy, no good slacker! I'm so depressed I think that I'll apply for a job as a Tech Inspector. Or maybe I'll just shoot myself.

[Billy Nees]

BTW, anybody that thinks I'm singleing out Bob should read my thread; It's a mystery to me.

[Larry Munk]

BILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! Go to your room. You're not allowed to have a real job. Working on other peoples racecars is just a hobby.

[Ed Fernandez]

[QUOTE=B Aceves;111857]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

OK everybody, The -1.40 trigger is taking too long to catch up to all of the "soft" combos out there! Any suggestions? OBTW we're talking Stock and SS![/QUO

Ya, Dont work on your stuff, Sell it and build something you think you know is a soft combo and
TRY to make it go fast!!

You obviously dont know or have seen Billy at the track.Nobody works on his car,and others,more than him.I went with him to Gainesville (980 miles) so he could make a cam change and present a set of heads
to tech for inspection.I've seen him change carbs,move the cam and other misc. things,and that's between qualifying runs.He probably works harder at one race than you have in your racing career,if you race at all
He comes on here and makes observations and makes suggestions neither with any hidden agendas,unlike some on this site.
And he would never build a soft combo,that's too easy.



Ed F.

[Alan Roehrich]

Just a new trigger by itself will not solve anything. The AHFS needs a complete rebuild, it is fundamentally flawed, in at least a 1/2 dozen ways.

One other thing. There is now not enough incentive to go fast in Stock or Super Stock to make the AHFS really effective, even if NHRA were to be even remotely interested in fixing it.

And they are not at all interested in fixing it, if they were, they'd have taken the suggestions made by the SRAC and done it by now. Not to mention the fact they took it from people who really know the classes and put Glendora in charge.

With the new cars and their bogus factors backed by factory money, NHRA now has a vested interest in the AHFS not working.

It's a shame, ain't it? That Stock class eliminations at Houston was canceled so the Pro Mod dog and pony act could have two time trials says all you need to know about where Stock and Super Stock rank with NHRA.