Just an idea to combine classes. - Page 5

Joe Abbazia · 01-05-2010, 10:06 PM

Don I see your side of the story.With that being said the two men you are dealing with are some bright guys that make good points.I dont know how well you know Billy or Art but they are some of the craftiest men one could meet.Art ran hemi cars when they were new and was killer,Billy could make a car out of a beer can and it would be fast.I am not defending anyone but these are the guys I watched as a kid and dreamed of competing with.I guess I just want everyone to try and be as open minded as possible,its sucks what is happening but we got no place to go!!

Joe Abbazia · 01-05-2010, 10:11 PM

Sorry Dick I addressed you as Don.Thanks Joe

Dick Butler · 01-06-2010, 07:12 AM

Joe, Thanks for your input. I respect all the guys here. Their willingness to discuss the stuff is whats important, not the result. Thats the only way a better understanding is reached. You are correct in the long run where do we go? One of the Major issues is does the racer opinion "really "matter. Seems the advisory board deal was another failure and about the third time that format was tried.by NHRA and each time after forming the board or having the input meeting it folded for lack of responses or the man in charge was let go.
Good Luck. I have expressed my thoughts and as I do not currently race I will leave the discussion to those who do and hope to improve it.

Ron Ortiz · 01-06-2010, 09:08 AM

Sorry Billy for semi hijacking your thread with the following comment.

Quit worrying about the amount of cars in a class and how many byes there are. To run class byes it only takes 15-30 minutes to run them. You are seeking a higher contingency payout for class and the need for more sponsors.

If you want sponsors who pay contingencies, tell NHRA to quit taking all the posted cash for the no shows.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA now back to your regular scheduled program.

442OLDS · 01-06-2010, 09:20 AM

Why is everyone always trying to "fix" Stock Eliminator by reducing classes?

I believe it was pointed out in another thread that Super Stock has almost twice as many classes.

Dick Butler · 01-06-2010, 10:59 AM

442, Not to continue the discussion but my comments were for Both and even more pertained to SS where the GT and SS classes and Truck could all be combined if needed.

01-05-2010, 10:06 PM	#41
Joe Abbazia Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: USA Posts: 66 Likes: 0 Liked 19 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Just an idea to combine classes. Don I see your side of the story.With that being said the two men you are dealing with are some bright guys that make good points.I dont know how well you know Billy or Art but they are some of the craftiest men one could meet.Art ran hemi cars when they were new and was killer,Billy could make a car out of a beer can and it would be fast.I am not defending anyone but these are the guys I watched as a kid and dreamed of competing with.I guess I just want everyone to try and be as open minded as possible,its sucks what is happening but we got no place to go!!

01-05-2010, 10:11 PM	#42
Joe Abbazia Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: USA Posts: 66 Likes: 0 Liked 19 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Just an idea to combine classes. Sorry Dick I addressed you as Don.Thanks Joe

01-06-2010, 07:12 AM	#43
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Just an idea to combine classes. Joe, Thanks for your input. I respect all the guys here. Their willingness to discuss the stuff is whats important, not the result. Thats the only way a better understanding is reached. You are correct in the long run where do we go? One of the Major issues is does the racer opinion "really "matter. Seems the advisory board deal was another failure and about the third time that format was tried.by NHRA and each time after forming the board or having the input meeting it folded for lack of responses or the man in charge was let go. Good Luck. I have expressed my thoughts and as I do not currently race I will leave the discussion to those who do and hope to improve it.

01-06-2010, 09:08 AM	#44
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 989 Likes: 35 Liked 315 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Just an idea to combine classes. Sorry Billy for semi hijacking your thread with the following comment. Quit worrying about the amount of cars in a class and how many byes there are. To run class byes it only takes 15-30 minutes to run them. You are seeking a higher contingency payout for class and the need for more sponsors. If you want sponsors who pay contingencies, tell NHRA to quit taking all the posted cash for the no shows. Ron Ortiz U/SA now back to your regular scheduled program. __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

01-06-2010, 09:20 AM	#45
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,339 Likes: 5 Liked 282 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Just an idea to combine classes. Why is everyone always trying to "fix" Stock Eliminator by reducing classes? I believe it was pointed out in another thread that Super Stock has almost twice as many classes.

01-06-2010, 10:59 AM	#46
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Just an idea to combine classes. 442, Not to continue the discussion but my comments were for Both and even more pertained to SS where the GT and SS classes and Truck could all be combined if needed.