Yet another bogu horsepower factor

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by Mike Gray

Take 1hp off the NHRA factor for each year of the cars age.
that should make the '60's muscle cars competitive again.
(might make some 55 chevys happy.)

Alright Ive decided to use the "nuclear" option.

Nuff bitching and moaning.

You wanna complain, hows this.

Suppose the NHRA Created a NEW Class, built a bright shiny playground YOU can play in ? BUT We can still play in yours ? And even HP got factored close in S and SS ?

How you like them apples ?

So Im new to Class Racing, so what, I have seen my "Combos" moved up and down the ladder in bikes for years. I had (just sold) a 200cc Bridgestone GP Bike that was ONLY Allowed and still competitive in 350 class... yes really. Not only that but it would tear an NEW 250 anohter ***. That from a 68.

Things are changing.

Adapt or persish simple.

"Stockers" ala 1970 are NOT representitive of todays iron, It took detroit 40 years but its here and now. AND Its STOCK.

Adapt ot perish, no amount of crying will fix it from yalls perspective.

I think a "vintage" class is in order. Would that make you happy ?

I dont negatge the blood sweat and tears put in any combo, but that a lot of you are saying is we cant play too.

Careful what you wish for.....very careful.......

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by drooze

I wont disagree with the HP Ratings, nuther issue all together,

No, it's not another issue. It is *exactly* the issue (or one of two issues -- the other being the "factory built race car, non-street legal issue)

but take a Chally SRT8, pop in a cam with a healthy duration, pull the exhausts , change the gear and converter and throw a tune on it and itll run 10.5 flat all day long, WITH the IRS and pulling at 4000 LB. (...) What makes that not a stocker ?

That *is* a Stocker. It *should* be in the Guide. Get the specs in the guide, give it a rational HP factor, and have at it. They're awesome cars, and they *should* be out there! Saw a really deep blue Challenger SRT8 in a Wally World parking lot yesterday. -=drool=- Just gorgeous!

All anybody has been asking for is a modicum of common sense, and I think 98% of those who take issue with what has been done with the new cars have NO problem with you and others who have built them. You're playing within the rules. It is the factories and NHRA that have made it a complete and utter joke.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Thanks, much needed, it wouldnt have mattered where we ended up just to be a part of it was enough.....

Thanks again, waitll the SRt8 is in the guides....lol

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

No, it's not another issue. It is *exactly* the issue (or one of two issues -- the other being the "factory built race car, non-street legal issue)



That *is* a Stocker. It *should* be in the Guide. Get the specs in the guide, give it a rational HP factor, and have at it. They're awesome cars, and they *should* be out there! Saw a really deep blue Challenger SRT8 in a Wally World parking lot yesterday. -=drool=- Just gorgeous!

All anybody has been asking for is a modicum of common sense, and I think 98% of those who take issue with what has been done with the new cars have NO problem with you and others who have built them. You're playing within the rules. It is the factories and NHRA that have made it a complete and utter joke.

[Greg Hill]

Drooze, you're full of crap. You all haven't even made a decent pass down the race track and you're trying to tell us our cars belong in vintage stock. Bull ****. You have the car that needs to be in a different class not ours. I've listened to you tell everyone how much you know and how smart you are , The thing is, you don't know jack when it comes to stock eliminator. Your car is bogus,the motors for it are bogus, and until you can get it down the race track you are bogus. How do you like them apples?

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by Greg Hill

Drooze, you're full of crap. You all haven't even made a decent pass down the race track and you're trying to tell us our cars belong in vintage stock. Bull ****. You have the car that needs to be in a different class not ours. I've listened to you tell everyone how much you know and how smart you are , The thing is, you don't know jack when it comes to stock eliminator. Your car is bogus,the motors for it are bogus, and until you can get it down the race track you are bogus. How do you like them apples?

I wont disagree, Not 1 bit, when it does make it down the track more than 6 passes and into the 9;s , well until then you are 100% right. What I do know is it will happen. And you can call it and us bogus all you like. But we do have a DP and we will see the 9's with the 5.7....those are facts. It may not happen on "your" time but it will happen.

In as much as a new class.....like I said be careful what you wish for......

A bright shiny new playground where youre NOT allowed but we are in yours....

THAT I know for a fact. So..well its gonna be fun this year, it alredy has been. And it will continue to be, today was a "short" day the onl man had Chemo, but hell be there 8 sharp tommorow.....can you say you would be ?

[bsa633]

I see it now...it's not just the cars that will change in this class,alot of the people or there attitude will change too...one thing is sure...it wont be the same anymore!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by bsa633

I see it now...it's not just the cars that will change in this class,alot of the people or there attitude will change too...one thing is sure...it wont be the same anymore!

Its ALREADY not the same anymore.

[Rich Biebel]

A new class is being formed...... B.S./SA Only new cars are allowed. Make up your own HP number and weight sticker......Run a power adder if you feel like it.....but it's still a legit Stocker.......New Breed Stock it's called....

You don't actually make any runs....you just see who can brag the most and make up all kinds of stories and distractions...and tell everyone else they don't know what they are talking about....or they just don't get it......or......blah, blah,blah.....

It's regodamnediculous .....

But I'm having fun with it.....and I don't take myself all that serious....

and Morgan Fairchild is my girfreind...yea thats right!

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

A new class is being formed...... B.S./SA Only new cars are allowed. Make up your own HP number and weight sticker......Run a power adder if you feel like it.....but it's still a legit Stocker.......New Breed Stock it's called....

You don't actually make any runs....you just see who can brag the most and make up all kinds of stories and distractions...and tell everyone else they don't know what they are talking about....or they just don't get it......or......blah, blah,blah.....

It's regodamnediculous .....

But I'm having fun with it.....and I don't take myself all that serious....

and Morgan Fairchild is my girfreind...yea thats right!

Uhh Rich,Morgan likes girls.:>(

[Rich Biebel]

She's a switchitter Ed and she likes short bald old guys.....