G/SA Current Record - Page 5

James Perrone · 12-05-2013, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Parker

That was too easy...lmao. Yes I remember the nova and tech at Maple Grove.... And if memory serves me right, no one was ever torn apart or even a valve cover taken off to check the JR/S cars. Not that I would say any were illegal, just none to my knowledge none were ever checked. And I understand why, just not enough time at the races to do that. And that was a shame because there was some great runs by some legal cars.

Gary well said in my humble opinion THEM GUYS ARE ILLEGAL!!
I couldn't run within 2 tenths of them..And Im cheating like a MOFO!!
****!! Chuck drug me down the track at Columbus real ugly.. OUCH!! Sent the motor to the wise man south of NY above DC .Looking for PAYBACK!!

Ed Wright · 12-05-2013, 03:50 PM

Please pardon my ignorance, but what is a JR/S car?

Dwight Southerland · 12-05-2013, 04:36 PM

Junior Stock. Contested in Div 1 during the era of Top Stock. Sounded like a great idea.

B Parker · 12-05-2013, 05:05 PM

Cdncarnut see what kind of trouble you have started. My brother is in the garage plumbing a line to the display battery in the trunk of my car. He said he read about it in a pro stock article put out by some guy named Wayne County. He's been mumbling all day about 10:20's in G. James you didn't need to tell us you are cheating you ***** off. We already knew. Dwight JR stock and top Stock was a lot of fun. We have to thank Dave Ley for it. To bad it didn't get more support from NHRA. Barry

MikeFicacci · 12-05-2013, 05:10 PM

Joe, We will no longer be competing in the world of G/SA - H/SA.
Gary, Top Stock and Junior Stock was absolutely awesome due to the competitiveness. Just look at the qualifying i posted. None of those cars had more than a quart of oil in them that day!

Gary Parker · 12-05-2013, 05:24 PM

Mike.. they were great, I was there watching most of them...

B Parker · 12-05-2013, 05:26 PM

Mike your right it was the most fun I had in stock in years. To bad they didn't keep it going. The new factory stock class looks fun but you need a 100 grand stocker to be able to run it. By the early ball busting going on it looks like it's going to be a long winter. Barry

Irace007 · 12-05-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Erickson

Attachment 22290
This one held the G/SA National record in 1974 and again in 1976 off a 12.56 index.

Rich
Now it's on the street and a blast to drive!

Greg Reimer 7376 · 12-05-2013, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Janes

National records in the sixties a big deal, today not worth the time to tear it down.

Seems that the current crowd of really fast cars does it not to set records,but to stay ahead of each other. Tony, give me a call this weekend. I haven't been successful in reaching you.

Evan Smith · 12-06-2013, 09:34 AM

Jesse,

Setting an NHRA record is still cool, especially if it's your first time. It doesn't carry the same weight as it once did for a few reasons (in my opinion of course):

1. Back in the day guys with the fastest cars (who could drive them well) won races and stockers were just that, hopped up "stockers." They better represented what people drove on the street, so they had more mass fan appeal. The specialty cars (CJ, DP and COPO) and teams who run them enjoy this attention, but this same doesn't exist for other cars. Stock is now the name of our class, but we race race cars and the appeal is within our circles, not to the masses.
Also, a guy can build a street-legal car that is faster than most of our Stocker, so what is the appeal for kids to build a dedicated race car that they can only use at NHRA races and they may have to take apart?

2. Fear of AHFS

3. With today's connectivity (Internet) everyone knows how fast your cars is, you don't have to tear down, set a record, or wait for a magazine article to see who is fast.

4. Poor promotion of the performance end of Stock/Super Stock. NHRA can do more to brag about these awesome machines we have and they don't reach out to magazines like the one I edit to come cover the action. That is not a bash of NHRA, it is fact. They should be inviting us out to watch the cars and cover the events.
Furthermore, you are only a "somebody" if you win races and let's face it, that's based mainly on bracket-driving ability. (having a fast car is important, but there is no reward for having a fast car). Guys like Jenkins and Sox were great drivers, but they always had fast cars. Heck, WJ made a name for himself driving around people.

That's my rant, here's my solution, which I have offered to NHRA, and that is to simply award points for qualifying and setting records. This rewards those who spend money with the aftermarket, make their cars fast and drive them well.

Top 8 (or 16) qualifiers at each event get points. Most points go to No.1 then a declining scale. Ex. No 1 qualifier gets 16 pts, No 16 gets 1 pt. Also, award 20 points for a national record, and to prevent going overboard with it, limit how many records you can set in a year. I would also love to see less classes with more cars, that would make a big difference, but only if there is a reward for it.

If NHRA wants performance to count, reward us for improving our performance.

Evan

12-05-2013, 03:50 PM	#42
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: G/SA Current Record Please pardon my ignorance, but what is a JR/S car? __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

12-05-2013, 04:36 PM	#43
Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 2,001 Likes: 64 Liked 780 Times in 194 Posts	Re: G/SA Current Record Junior Stock. Contested in Div 1 during the era of Top Stock. Sounded like a great idea.

12-05-2013, 05:05 PM	#44
B Parker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 849 Likes: 980 Liked 2,336 Times in 464 Posts	Re: G/SA Current Record Cdncarnut see what kind of trouble you have started. My brother is in the garage plumbing a line to the display battery in the trunk of my car. He said he read about it in a pro stock article put out by some guy named Wayne County. He's been mumbling all day about 10:20's in G. James you didn't need to tell us you are cheating you ***** off. We already knew. Dwight JR stock and top Stock was a lot of fun. We have to thank Dave Ley for it. To bad it didn't get more support from NHRA. Barry

12-05-2013, 05:10 PM	#45
MikeFicacci Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 242 Likes: 1 Liked 19 Times in 2 Posts	Re: G/SA Current Record Joe, We will no longer be competing in the world of G/SA - H/SA. Gary, Top Stock and Junior Stock was absolutely awesome due to the competitiveness. Just look at the qualifying i posted. None of those cars had more than a quart of oil in them that day! __________________ Mike Ficacci Stk 1010

12-05-2013, 05:24 PM	#46
Gary Parker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Westfield Mass Posts: 529 Likes: 368 Liked 425 Times in 56 Posts	Re: G/SA Current Record Mike.. they were great, I was there watching most of them... __________________ Gary Parker 1617 STK

12-05-2013, 05:26 PM	#47
B Parker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 849 Likes: 980 Liked 2,336 Times in 464 Posts	Re: G/SA Current Record Mike your right it was the most fun I had in stock in years. To bad they didn't keep it going. The new factory stock class looks fun but you need a 100 grand stocker to be able to run it. By the early ball busting going on it looks like it's going to be a long winter. Barry

12-06-2013, 09:34 AM	#50
Evan Smith Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tampa Posts: 400 Likes: 7 Liked 115 Times in 5 Posts	Re: G/SA Current Record Jesse, Setting an NHRA record is still cool, especially if it's your first time. It doesn't carry the same weight as it once did for a few reasons (in my opinion of course): 1. Back in the day guys with the fastest cars (who could drive them well) won races and stockers were just that, hopped up "stockers." They better represented what people drove on the street, so they had more mass fan appeal. The specialty cars (CJ, DP and COPO) and teams who run them enjoy this attention, but this same doesn't exist for other cars. Stock is now the name of our class, but we race race cars and the appeal is within our circles, not to the masses. Also, a guy can build a street-legal car that is faster than most of our Stocker, so what is the appeal for kids to build a dedicated race car that they can only use at NHRA races and they may have to take apart? 2. Fear of AHFS 3. With today's connectivity (Internet) everyone knows how fast your cars is, you don't have to tear down, set a record, or wait for a magazine article to see who is fast. 4. Poor promotion of the performance end of Stock/Super Stock. NHRA can do more to brag about these awesome machines we have and they don't reach out to magazines like the one I edit to come cover the action. That is not a bash of NHRA, it is fact. They should be inviting us out to watch the cars and cover the events. Furthermore, you are only a "somebody" if you win races and let's face it, that's based mainly on bracket-driving ability. (having a fast car is important, but there is no reward for having a fast car). Guys like Jenkins and Sox were great drivers, but they always had fast cars. Heck, WJ made a name for himself driving around people. That's my rant, here's my solution, which I have offered to NHRA, and that is to simply award points for qualifying and setting records. This rewards those who spend money with the aftermarket, make their cars fast and drive them well. Top 8 (or 16) qualifiers at each event get points. Most points go to No.1 then a declining scale. Ex. No 1 qualifier gets 16 pts, No 16 gets 1 pt. Also, award 20 points for a national record, and to prevent going overboard with it, limit how many records you can set in a year. I would also love to see less classes with more cars, that would make a big difference, but only if there is a reward for it. If NHRA wants performance to count, reward us for improving our performance. Evan __________________ Evan Smith 1798 STK