Pro Mod or Pro Stock? - Page 5

Ed Wright · 07-01-2015, 09:15 PM

Guessing you don't have a friend that runs Pro Stock? I do/did. Nothing like a funny car. Many 2 year old, or older, Pro Stock cars end up running in Comp with a different engine. Nothing at all in common with a funny car.

SSGT Mustang · 07-01-2015, 10:49 PM

You're right. I don't know anyone who runs pro stock. But I've been drag racing for more than 30 years and I remember when pro stock was pro stock. I also remember the pro mod guys like Oddy and Animal Jim who used to do grudge races, and always to a full crowd.

Pro stock has become like funny car because the bodies look nothing like the production cars, and the motors are not like the production motors. Glidden used to run a Boss Hemi, the Chrysler guys used to run a 426 based hemi or a wedge, Pontiac guys ran Pontiac motors and BBC's guys ran basically BBCs. The bodies resembled real cars, like Glidden in a T bird and the late great Lee Shepherd in a Camaro.

Now, in a 16 car field, if you can get a 16 car field, you have basically one body style and one style motor, with the exception of Allen Johnson and sometime V. Gaines. Does that mean that the drivers, tuners and engine builders are not working hard? Absolutely not. But the greatness of pro stock has been lost.

Because of all the PC crap, there can't even be real rivalries anymore. To see a burn down today looks like a joke. When you saw a burn down between Glidden and Johnson, it was a BURN DOWN. It had meaning. People dominated because they tried new combinations and worked them. Like when Glidden went from a Cleveland to the Hemi, and Reher and Morrison went to a BBC.

I'm one of the odd Super Stock guys who actually likes fuel and alcohol cars. They are awesome, and anyone who has the nads to drive them deserves respect. I don't care about crashes, I care about how these guys get those cars down track. Same with pro mod. The fuel cars, the alcohol cars and the pro mod cars will always be the top draw because they are killers. They push the limits of human ingenuity. They are almost super human.

Pro stock used to have a strong following too, because people saw the diversity in the cars, the combination and the rivalry. They didn't just root for the driver. They rooted for the full package. And, teams didn't lease engines.

And about those fuel cars. It's interesting to look back and see how Garlits was so ahead of his time and a true innovator. I remember people joking about his bubble hooded dragster back in the day. Now, it's the "new thing." At least he had the nerve to go out there and try new things that people used to scoff at.

Times have changed. But pro mod to me at least represents what drag racing used to be. I'm not sure what can be done with Pro Stock, but I do know that I'm not the only one who feels that it has lost its appeal, and I used to be a die hard pro stock guy.

boostedf22c · 07-02-2015, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Guessing you don't have a friend that runs Pro Stock? I do/did. Nothing like a funny car. Many 2 year old, or older, Pro Stock cars end up running in Comp with a different engine. Nothing at all in common with a funny car.

Id love to get ahold of a pro stock roller. It's hard running in comp with a back half car. At least in the class I'm running.

BRIAN SEATE · 07-02-2015, 11:40 PM

Bottom line, the average fan likes noise and 300 mph. It means nothing to us, we actually understand how cars work and appreciate them. The average fan cant relate because they are clueless. People are so used to the speed that anything other than nitro bores them. How do you fix it? Quite simply, you cant. For me, I like both. The money is the key, teams cant operate at competitive levels on a shoestring. We all know this. Take a look around, it`s not a car culture anymore either. How many kids can graduate from high school and buy a new 40,000 car?

Dick Butler · 07-03-2015, 02:56 PM

Hundreds flocked to a theater to watch a computer game contest and paid seat prices. Probably came in Prius or on bicycle. Cars are not part of the process of growing up anymore and prices are a big part as well as other forms of entertainment in the palm of your hand for $100.

07-03-2015, 04:34 PM

Really? Seriously? Nothing replaces Pro Stock or Pro Mod. Certainly not the factory race cars.

joespanova · 07-16-2015, 05:59 AM

http://www.dragracingonline.com/agen...xvii_7-19.html
I'll believe this when I see it.......but this should have been done 15 years ago.
I've been saying small blocks and fuel injection / turbos / blowers for years ........
It will be interesting to see what teams cry the loudest and what new blood it brings into the class...........and whatever happened to Wescott and his Mustang?

lvd2340 · 07-17-2015, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by joespanova

http://www.dragracingonline.com/agen...xvii_7-19.html
I'll believe this when I see it.......but this should have been done 15 years ago.
I've been saying small blocks and fuel injection / turbos / blowers for years ........
It will be interesting to see what teams cry the loudest and what new blood it brings into the class...........and whatever happened to Wescott and his Mustang?

From his Facebook page he's got his first Pro Stock engine on the dyno, it's getting closer but it's not ready yet. It's taken him longer than expected but you know he won't bring it out unless it's a competitive piece.

Mike Pearson · 07-17-2015, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lvd2340

From his Facebook page he's got his first Pro Stock engine on the dyno, it's getting closer but it's not ready yet. It's taken him longer than expected but you know he won't bring it out unless it's a competitive piece.

Looks like it could be obsolete by the time he gets it sorted out due to the upcoming changes to the class. I was looking forward to Charlie shaking things up in pro stock. I like the class just as it is. Pure HP. Its the only pro class that I like to watch.

oldskool · 07-25-2015, 02:13 PM

No more carbs in 2016. NHRA controlled 10,500 rpm FI rev limiters.

http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...er=30#indextop

07-01-2015, 09:15 PM	#41
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Pro Mod or Pro Stock? Guessing you don't have a friend that runs Pro Stock? I do/did. Nothing like a funny car. Many 2 year old, or older, Pro Stock cars end up running in Comp with a different engine. Nothing at all in common with a funny car. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

07-01-2015, 10:49 PM	#42
SSGT Mustang Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey Posts: 359 Likes: 35 Liked 204 Times in 54 Posts	Re: Pro Mod or Pro Stock? You're right. I don't know anyone who runs pro stock. But I've been drag racing for more than 30 years and I remember when pro stock was pro stock. I also remember the pro mod guys like Oddy and Animal Jim who used to do grudge races, and always to a full crowd. Pro stock has become like funny car because the bodies look nothing like the production cars, and the motors are not like the production motors. Glidden used to run a Boss Hemi, the Chrysler guys used to run a 426 based hemi or a wedge, Pontiac guys ran Pontiac motors and BBC's guys ran basically BBCs. The bodies resembled real cars, like Glidden in a T bird and the late great Lee Shepherd in a Camaro. Now, in a 16 car field, if you can get a 16 car field, you have basically one body style and one style motor, with the exception of Allen Johnson and sometime V. Gaines. Does that mean that the drivers, tuners and engine builders are not working hard? Absolutely not. But the greatness of pro stock has been lost. Because of all the PC crap, there can't even be real rivalries anymore. To see a burn down today looks like a joke. When you saw a burn down between Glidden and Johnson, it was a BURN DOWN. It had meaning. People dominated because they tried new combinations and worked them. Like when Glidden went from a Cleveland to the Hemi, and Reher and Morrison went to a BBC. I'm one of the odd Super Stock guys who actually likes fuel and alcohol cars. They are awesome, and anyone who has the nads to drive them deserves respect. I don't care about crashes, I care about how these guys get those cars down track. Same with pro mod. The fuel cars, the alcohol cars and the pro mod cars will always be the top draw because they are killers. They push the limits of human ingenuity. They are almost super human. Pro stock used to have a strong following too, because people saw the diversity in the cars, the combination and the rivalry. They didn't just root for the driver. They rooted for the full package. And, teams didn't lease engines. And about those fuel cars. It's interesting to look back and see how Garlits was so ahead of his time and a true innovator. I remember people joking about his bubble hooded dragster back in the day. Now, it's the "new thing." At least he had the nerve to go out there and try new things that people used to scoff at. Times have changed. But pro mod to me at least represents what drag racing used to be. I'm not sure what can be done with Pro Stock, but I do know that I'm not the only one who feels that it has lost its appeal, and I used to be a die hard pro stock guy.

07-02-2015, 11:40 PM	#44
BRIAN SEATE Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 177 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Pro Mod or Pro Stock? Bottom line, the average fan likes noise and 300 mph. It means nothing to us, we actually understand how cars work and appreciate them. The average fan cant relate because they are clueless. People are so used to the speed that anything other than nitro bores them. How do you fix it? Quite simply, you cant. For me, I like both. The money is the key, teams cant operate at competitive levels on a shoestring. We all know this. Take a look around, it`s not a car culture anymore either. How many kids can graduate from high school and buy a new 40,000 car?

07-03-2015, 02:56 PM	#45
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Pro Mod or Pro Stock? Hundreds flocked to a theater to watch a computer game contest and paid seat prices. Probably came in Prius or on bicycle. Cars are not part of the process of growing up anymore and prices are a big part as well as other forms of entertainment in the palm of your hand for $100.

07-03-2015, 04:34 PM	#46
Barry Polley Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Pro Mod or Pro Stock? Really? Seriously? Nothing replaces Pro Stock or Pro Mod. Certainly not the factory race cars.

07-16-2015, 05:59 AM	#47
joespanova Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ga. Posts: 521 Likes: 7 Liked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Pro Mod or Pro Stock? http://www.dragracingonline.com/agen...xvii_7-19.html I'll believe this when I see it.......but this should have been done 15 years ago. I've been saying small blocks and fuel injection / turbos / blowers for years ........ It will be interesting to see what teams cry the loudest and what new blood it brings into the class...........and whatever happened to Wescott and his Mustang?

07-25-2015, 02:13 PM	#50
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Pro Mod or Pro Stock? No more carbs in 2016. NHRA controlled 10,500 rpm FI rev limiters. http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...er=30#indextop Last edited by oldskool; 07-25-2015 at 02:17 PM.