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Old 10-20-2016, 11:05 AM   #41
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Hand over fist...get a grip. Inclusion of faster wheel standing cars will only HELP the cause and won't hurt you slower cars one single bit.

T bolt racer..you obviously have a greater understanding of what's going on.. Your post is right on the money...

Like I said from the beginning I have no problem either way. Either give us wheelie bars in stock...Orrr...include more body styles in NSS where at least we don't have to risk injury to compete..This IS NOT an unreasonable request....
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Old 10-20-2016, 11:08 AM   #42
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The guys at NMCA are reasonable and are paying attention. They provide a safe, fun, fair and friendly environment and want to give you a place to race. If you are interested in the NMCA, but feel the rules could be tweaked, I would recommend taking a few minutes of your time and email Gene Bergstrom gbergstrom@promediapub.com.

I'm quite sure a letter expelling why a nose-heavy Stocker on a 9-inch tire needs to carry the front end (hence the need for bars), and will help them understand that a Stocker is different then a 210 mph power adder car that can ramp in the power. Communication would go a long way in helping them understand why bars are necessary, rather than posting that you're not going unless they change a rule. NMCA has invested in these classes, and they have a nice following of racers, but they would love to see NHRA and IHRA racers try their series.

With that, I will be meeting with the NMCA at PRI to discuss having a Stock/Super Stock combo at select events. If this is preferred, rather than joining existing classes, please let me know. Take a look at the NMCA schedule and let me or Gene know what event(s) you could make. Your response could help define the outcome.

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Old 10-20-2016, 11:21 AM   #43
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Hand over fist...get a grip. Inclusion of faster wheel standing cars will only HELP the cause and won't hurt you slower cars one single bit.

T bolt racer..you obviously have a greater understanding of what's going on.. Your post is right on the money...

Like I said from the beginning I have no problem either way. Either give us wheelie bars in stock...Orrr...include more body styles in NSS where at least we don't have to risk injury to compete..This IS NOT an unreasonable request....
My grip on reality is just fine Mike. Like I said previously, NMC has cars running 9.50 and I have not heard of any revolt due to lack of wheelie bars. You are making requests/demands before even showing up...yes, I consider that to be unreasonable. One could always just enter Open Comp and all your issues would be addressed.

Evan - Thanks for the invite...I have great memories from racing NMCA back in the late 90's in the EFI ranks. I don't think all understand how crowded the events can be and the problems associated with adding another class/event without even knowing possible participation levels.
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Old 10-20-2016, 12:23 PM   #44
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The fact of the matter is....NMCA does not need us.....The only people that care about Stk/SS is us.....NMCA does not need our constant bickering, our driven agendas, and our holier than thou attitudes....We are more trouble than we are worth......
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Old 10-20-2016, 12:26 PM   #45
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The fact of the matter is....NMCA does not need us.....The only people that care about Stk/SS is us.....NMCA does not need our constant bickering, our driven agendas, and our holier than thou attitudes....We are more trouble than we are worth......
Well, I was not going to put it in those exact terms but...
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Old 10-20-2016, 01:05 PM   #46
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The fact of the matter is....NMCA does not need us.....The only people that care about Stk/SS is us.....NMCA does not need our constant bickering, our driven agendas, and our holier than thou attitudes....We are more trouble than we are worth......
That is not the way it is with the vast majority of stock and super stock racers. Most of the racers in our class just want a fair and level playing field.
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Old 10-20-2016, 01:28 PM   #47
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The fact of the matter is....NMCA does not need us.....The only people that care about Stk/SS is us.....NMCA does not need our constant bickering, our driven agendas, and our holier than thou attitudes....We are more trouble than we are worth......
The NMCA might not need us, but I would suggest that the add at the top of this page say that they want us!
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Old 10-20-2016, 01:41 PM   #48
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I can tell you the NMCA is interested in racers with muscle cars coming out and checking out an event. Heck, you could put your car in the car show and just take in the racing, swap meet, and manufacturers midway. No, they are probably not going to rewrite the rule book for cars that have never attended an event, however, they are open to suggestions and are strongly looking at some Stock/Super Stock combo races.
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Old 10-20-2016, 02:19 PM   #49
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The guys at NMCA are reasonable and are paying attention. They provide a safe, fun, fair and friendly environment and want to give you a place to race. If you are interested in the NMCA, but feel the rules could be tweaked, I would recommend taking a few minutes of your time and email Gene Bergstrom gbergstrom@promediapub.com.

I'm quite sure a letter expelling why a nose-heavy Stocker on a 9-inch tire needs to carry the front end (hence the need for bars), and will help them understand that a Stocker is different then a 210 mph power adder car that can ramp in the power. Communication would go a long way in helping them understand why bars are necessary, rather than posting that you're not going unless they change a rule. NMCA has invested in these classes, and they have a nice following of racers, but they would love to see NHRA and IHRA racers try their series.

With that, I will be meeting with the NMCA at PRI to discuss having a Stock/Super Stock combo at select events. If this is preferred, rather than joining existing classes, please let me know. Take a look at the NMCA schedule and let me or Gene know what event(s) you could make. Your response could help define the outcome.

Thanks,

Evan

As posted before in this thread, a combo race is the easiest and the most "new participant friendly " way to go.

Class racers make no changes to their cars or their routine.

Plus, with a combo race the track announcer could "talk-up" the class cars and try to explain to the spectators a little about these cars and what we can and cannot do to them.
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Old 10-20-2016, 02:41 PM   #50
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The General Rules Committee met and we have decided to put together an entire "New Class" rules package for 2017. We realize there are many competitors with Stock and Super Stock and similar cars that would like to compete in the NMCA Championship Series but do not fit the current rules for Nostalgia Super Stock. We are looking at a 5 tenths full tree, brake out eliminator the would have the feel and design of Stock / Super Stock combo but from there it is a clean sheet of paper. We would ask that anyone interested please submit you suggest ASAP to nmcarules@promediapub.com
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