What about STOCK ?

[bsa633]

dont change the issue here,..it was about buttons in stock!!.

[Hans Olsson]

Originally Posted by Bunkster

While spending all this time on the starting system, why not finally....finally...fix the red light inequality in handicap racing. It is downright ignorant to continue this "first" red light thing.

Imbrogno, do the right thing and institute the "worst" red light. You know it's the right thing to do. This thing of some drivers not having to take a shot at the tree is flat wrong. If anyone tells you "we've done it that way from day one", then tell them "...and we've been doing it wrong all that time, too."

It is not required you take a vote. It is not even necessary that you tell anyone when you do it. Just do it.

Or, if you won't change to a "worst" red light system, then be consistent and change the finish line to a "first" breakout system. That way, the lunacy would be the same at both ends of the track.

I agree! I agree 10X!

[Hans Olsson]

And i think we should do away with the two-steps and buttons as well.

Do all you guys really think that footbreaking is going to create parody in our sport as in who wins? The big guys that win all the time ( Biondo, Fletcher, Langs, and ect) put so much more into the sport than most of us. Make 400+ runs a year, study who they are racing, and know them better then they know thereselves. Can take .001 finish line at will, that alone wins more races than Good lights. Can dial in any weather with out timeshots durring that day. Pay attention to small details, that other people miss contatntly.lWhen they go to the track, they don't worry about winning class, working on there car to make it the fastest, or see who can drink the most beer and see who's left standing at 4 AM. THEY GO THERE TO RACE AND THATS IT.? These guys are the best because it's there Job. If we take two steps away, the good guys will adjust, and the other guys that are .050 normally will be .070 and up. The button helps the guy controll starting line rpm, thats it. You cant leave off the Top, I won't make an average racer any better. If we get rid of 2 steps I want to see all stick guys use there right foot controll the starting line rpm. Two steps didn't come it stick cars from the factory either. Lets leave the rules alone and work harder to make our cars run better, and to win more rounds.

Todd Hoven
1035 Stk

[Doug Blackley]

So much of this sounds like the same things said about deep staging, etc from a few years ago yet the same guys still do most of the winning. I don't get why so many try to reshape Stock.

[Tommy Gaynor]

Just so you know your facts! Jody Lang is a foot brake racer.

Just so you know your facts! Jody Lang is a foot brake racer.

I didn't mean it like he was a 2 step racer. I just meant that he was one of thwe good racers that win with driving the finish line and wins consistantly. I don't race the west coast so I wouldn't know that about Lang. Good for him.
Todd Hoven
1035 Stk

[Mark Yacavone]

Todd, my friend, You have to realize a stick shift driver cannot preset his rpm and then creep in ,like and automatic driver can . You may not remember, but we used to have a 5 amber tree until about 1986. You had half a chance of looking away from the tree to the tach and back again, back then. Just can't be done now.
No two steps and buttons on automatic cars,
2 steps for stick cars only , hooked to the line lock or clutch pedal.
Bring back deep -staging. Give the slower cars half a chance.
Case closed- Stock fixed. May the best foot -braker win.

[Bob Mulry]

Hi,

If a stick car can set the EXACT leave RPM then automatic cars should have the same option.

Bob

[Mark Yacavone]

Big Guy, Bring back the 5 amber tree and I'll take my chances! Bring back deep staging and I'll show you how to do it with an automatic car too (a slow one)