Cheating [2-step And Buttons] - Page 5

Kandra Villani · 09-24-2007, 01:21 PM

Ed: #1, yes, I was THERE when the racers caught Muncy. #2: Did I ever say I DON'T believe others are cheating?????? Nope, never said that, but NHRA is the one raising this issue SUPPOSEDLY based on the cheating, yet I have not seen ANYTHING that they are posting as proof. That is my point, you missed that, Huh?? It is NHRA's responsibility to catch them, I agree they might not be doing their job, but does that mean we punish ALL people that LOOK like criminals, because they MIGHT be?? ( like all the thugs in the NBA, but that's another story....)

#3: Stock Eliminator is an ENTRY level class. My Ex has ONE other car that has built that SPECIFIC combo, and has done well, and has ADMITTED to him that he threw LOTS of $$ at it. Nice of you to spend others $$. He doesn't, nor do I, have tens of thousands of dollars to throw at another car if we don't like the one we have. I'm glad you have that ability. He has had that car for years. It has sentimental value as well, so he thought he'd try. Stock Eliminator has gotten rather expensive to just "scrap" a car and go buy one. I have one that I've had for a number of years that I plan on building, but it's a car I already own, cheaper to build one, or it used to be, than to go buy one. You assume that everyone has unlimited funding, MOST don't.

I really don't understand why you always have to play devil's advocate to everyone, if I even had a CLUE as to who you are, I might understand, but I don't. I don't think your assessment is fair, there are MANY that don't use these forums ( or even have a computer) that are in the same position as Lane. I can think of 3 here in CO and so there must be more in other areas.

Kandra

Kandra Villani · 09-24-2007, 01:25 PM

BTW Ed, Lane was a Stock Eliminator racer LOOOOOOOOONG before he was a S/C or other driver. He is the best slow car driver I've ever seen. He took his skills from running a SLOW car and is also one of the best Super Pro drivers in this area as well. I didn't do to bad my first full season in SS either, finished 7th in D5, and even had one runner up, got MOST of my skills from slow car driving. He isn't one that came down from S/C to stock, he went the other way, so your post is incorrect in him wanting to drive his dragster like his stocker, he changes from one car to the other. Something most DON'T/CAN'T do.

Kandra

tgriffith · 09-24-2007, 02:14 PM

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Inquiring Mind · 09-24-2007, 03:49 PM

"Put me down for $100 on Biondo not winning as many races in Stock next year if Two-steps are gone !
Have a nice day
__________________
Ed O'Brien 4191 STK "

You are sooo smart Ed it is amazing. You probably have the same bet for Dave Connelly next year....that he will not win as many races as this year.

Earle Holt · 09-24-2007, 04:16 PM

Everyone is talking like banning two-steps is some kind of silver bullet...going to "Keep Stock, Stock." It will last one event...as soon people go get their asses kicked by the same people that were kicking them before...then what? What are people going to blame then? NASA satellites? GPS units?

This is just the flavor of the week.

I've got an idea. How about practicing to get better?

Mickey Whaley · 09-24-2007, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed OBrien

Inquiring mind
Get a real name and $100 bucks and you can cover the bet . Nobody else has even the guy that made the offer . Have a nice day

Ed dont want to argue with you but i see your name on here alot, i just want to know what kind of stocker you have?

Inquiring Mind · 09-24-2007, 08:36 PM

MIckey,

Not sure what Ed drives these days but I am sure it doesn't matter. I saw him at a race once and he was 2 tenths late on the tree in round one and I remember saying to my buddy... "man, for a guy who knows alot, he is horrible".

Here's what I DO know about Ed.

1- He was all about banning deepstaging 5 years ago and had the same reasons for banning it as he does now for banning 2 steps, felt like certain guys were gaining an advantage, said they wouldn't win as much without deepstaging.

2- he never has anything nice to say about Biondo's, Fletcher, Zane, Bertozzi,,,,hmmmm I wonder what those names have in common??

3- if he was had a backbone and was sure there was some kind of cheating going on he would be a man, bring his best hot shoe and put him against one of the above on HIS practice tree, but from the looks of things he may not even own one. Meet at a race, first to ten in his trailer for $1000??? But that won't happen either Mickey, trust me when it comes to a chance to confront people he bashes, he folds over like a lawn chair.

4- He doesn't make many friends
5- His IQ is below average (obviously).

As far as 2 steps go, I talked with Biondo and Zane this weekend at atco about it and they said they voted against 2 steps for next year.... I wonder what Ed thinks of that? I am sure he will have a response that doesn't correlate to the question..........

tgriffith · 09-24-2007, 09:09 PM

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Mickey Whaley · 09-24-2007, 09:56 PM

thanks for the reply ed, you might want hire jason line for your combo to compete with the FI cars next year....

keith ohanesian · 09-24-2007, 10:35 PM

Ed is drunk... Look out Mickey he's coming for jim beam

09-24-2007, 01:21 PM	#41
Kandra Villani Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Federick, CO Posts: 24 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cheating [2-step And Buttons] Ed: #1, yes, I was THERE when the racers caught Muncy. #2: Did I ever say I DON'T believe others are cheating?????? Nope, never said that, but NHRA is the one raising this issue SUPPOSEDLY based on the cheating, yet I have not seen ANYTHING that they are posting as proof. That is my point, you missed that, Huh?? It is NHRA's responsibility to catch them, I agree they might not be doing their job, but does that mean we punish ALL people that LOOK like criminals, because they MIGHT be?? ( like all the thugs in the NBA, but that's another story....) #3: Stock Eliminator is an ENTRY level class. My Ex has ONE other car that has built that SPECIFIC combo, and has done well, and has ADMITTED to him that he threw LOTS of $$ at it. Nice of you to spend others $$. He doesn't, nor do I, have tens of thousands of dollars to throw at another car if we don't like the one we have. I'm glad you have that ability. He has had that car for years. It has sentimental value as well, so he thought he'd try. Stock Eliminator has gotten rather expensive to just "scrap" a car and go buy one. I have one that I've had for a number of years that I plan on building, but it's a car I already own, cheaper to build one, or it used to be, than to go buy one. You assume that everyone has unlimited funding, MOST don't. I really don't understand why you always have to play devil's advocate to everyone, if I even had a CLUE as to who you are, I might understand, but I don't. I don't think your assessment is fair, there are MANY that don't use these forums ( or even have a computer) that are in the same position as Lane. I can think of 3 here in CO and so there must be more in other areas. Kandra

09-24-2007, 01:25 PM	#42
Kandra Villani Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Federick, CO Posts: 24 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cheating [2-step And Buttons] BTW Ed, Lane was a Stock Eliminator racer LOOOOOOOOONG before he was a S/C or other driver. He is the best slow car driver I've ever seen. He took his skills from running a SLOW car and is also one of the best Super Pro drivers in this area as well. I didn't do to bad my first full season in SS either, finished 7th in D5, and even had one runner up, got MOST of my skills from slow car driving. He isn't one that came down from S/C to stock, he went the other way, so your post is incorrect in him wanting to drive his dragster like his stocker, he changes from one car to the other. Something most DON'T/CAN'T do. Kandra Last edited by Kandra Villani; 09-24-2007 at 01:27 PM.

09-24-2007, 02:14 PM	#43
tgriffith Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 187 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cheating [2-step And Buttons] ... Last edited by tgriffith; 09-26-2007 at 08:09 AM.

09-24-2007, 03:49 PM	#44
Inquiring Mind Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 10 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cheating [2-step And Buttons] "Put me down for $100 on Biondo not winning as many races in Stock next year if Two-steps are gone ! Have a nice day __________________ Ed O'Brien 4191 STK " You are sooo smart Ed it is amazing. You probably have the same bet for Dave Connelly next year....that he will not win as many races as this year.

09-24-2007, 04:16 PM	#45
Earle Holt Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 194 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: Cheating [2-step And Buttons] Everyone is talking like banning two-steps is some kind of silver bullet...going to "Keep Stock, Stock." It will last one event...as soon people go get their asses kicked by the same people that were kicking them before...then what? What are people going to blame then? NASA satellites? GPS units? This is just the flavor of the week. I've got an idea. How about practicing to get better? __________________ Earle Holt 1055 Stock

09-24-2007, 08:36 PM	#47
Inquiring Mind Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 10 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cheating [2-step And Buttons] MIckey, Not sure what Ed drives these days but I am sure it doesn't matter. I saw him at a race once and he was 2 tenths late on the tree in round one and I remember saying to my buddy... "man, for a guy who knows alot, he is horrible". Here's what I DO know about Ed. 1- He was all about banning deepstaging 5 years ago and had the same reasons for banning it as he does now for banning 2 steps, felt like certain guys were gaining an advantage, said they wouldn't win as much without deepstaging. 2- he never has anything nice to say about Biondo's, Fletcher, Zane, Bertozzi,,,,hmmmm I wonder what those names have in common?? 3- if he was had a backbone and was sure there was some kind of cheating going on he would be a man, bring his best hot shoe and put him against one of the above on HIS practice tree, but from the looks of things he may not even own one. Meet at a race, first to ten in his trailer for $1000??? But that won't happen either Mickey, trust me when it comes to a chance to confront people he bashes, he folds over like a lawn chair. 4- He doesn't make many friends 5- His IQ is below average (obviously). As far as 2 steps go, I talked with Biondo and Zane this weekend at atco about it and they said they voted against 2 steps for next year.... I wonder what Ed thinks of that? I am sure he will have a response that doesn't correlate to the question..........

09-24-2007, 09:09 PM	#48
tgriffith Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 187 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cheating [2-step And Buttons] .. Last edited by tgriffith; 09-26-2007 at 08:09 AM.

09-24-2007, 09:56 PM	#49
Mickey Whaley VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,220 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Cheating [2-step And Buttons] thanks for the reply ed, you might want hire jason line for your combo to compete with the FI cars next year....

09-24-2007, 10:35 PM	#50
keith ohanesian Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 392 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Cheating [2-step And Buttons] Ed is drunk... Look out Mickey he's coming for jim beam