Misconception on a slow stocker winning

[David Lee]

Originally Posted by cicero819

Here's is another great race car V6 truck, Larrt Hill winning 95 Atlanta Chev truck.

what year truck?

[mcink]

this was racing brackets at Grove Creek Raceway in Minnesota last Saturday night.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by cicero819

Gary cars like yours are what I'm talking about, we need more of them. I can remember talking to the late Steve Taylor many years ago when he was winning all those races against much faster pure race car with his street driven Z 24's, he couldn't believe that there wasn't more front wheel drive cars in stock eliminator, he thought that if you cut a half decent light the other much faster car would have more than 60% chance to red light.lol Guy's and gals take your slower race car out of your garages and fill the lanes. Nice to see the Fletchers racing their great looking Chevelle Station wagon and winning rounds. Claude

Thanks Claude, and I'm trying to get it done, just need a better budget to do that with (and I'm within 2yrs of having that, thanks to now 3yrs of debt eliminating o/t I've been able to work to help make it happen...it's all about the funds to race with me). However, I feel that Michael Beard, and Stan Kopejtka are right there at the door waiting to run it down, and drive through it with their fwd stockers, and final round appearances mounting for both of them are the proof. I wish it could've been me to be the first fwd NHRA national/divisional event winner in over 25yrs, or IHRA Nitro Jam winner since its inception, but I feel one of those two will be the first to do that...I'll continue to try (however), to beat them to the punch...that's going to be monumental history given how tough it is to win nationals or divisionals nowadays!!!

[cicero819]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Thanks Claude, and I'm trying to get it done, just need a better budget to do that with (and I'm within 2yrs of having that, thanks to now 3yrs of debt eliminating o/t I've been able to work to help make it happen...it's all about the funds to race with me). However, I feel that Michael Beard, and Stan Kopejtka are right there at the door waiting to run it down, and drive through it with their fwd stockers, and final round appearances mounting for both of them are the proof. I wish it could've been me to be the first fwd NHRA national/divisional event winner in over 25yrs, or IHRA Nitro Jam winner since its inception, but I feel one of those two will be the first to do that...I'll continue to try (however), to beat them to the punch...that's going to be monumental history given how tough it is to win nationals or divisionals nowadays!!!

Gary you have one of the best and probaly one of the first to have won a Wally right in your backyard in Mark Yaccavone. The late great Steve Taylor told me his secret to his success was to make sure to not line up on the previous cars groove but just off completly with street tires. Good luck. Claude

[Michael Beard]

Congratulations to defending World Champion Phil Combs on sweeping the weekend so far at Mountain Park Dragway in Clay City, KY, driving Jim Woods' Borrowed Money L/SA Chevy II. Philbilly won the No-Box race Friday night, and then won Stock last night (early this morning, as they started late to get past the 100+ degree temps), taking out Pittsburgh Pro-Am winner Rob Bihl in Harlan Updike's Q/SA sled in the finals.

Couple more great showings for the slow rides!

[chris ok]

I won the HDRA drags at Riverhead Raceway last year in July in a 2001 4cyl Camry, slo and consistent thru 6 rounds, lol. Not a lot of happy people who raced me especially high dollar restored Vette in finals, could not catch my camry, lol. dialed by temp outside temp guage on dash.
Nothing like a good underdog story.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN

I better hide this thread from my kid and his N,O,P/SA Aspen 318 Wagon which is alway one of the slowest cars.....
as I do not want to discourage him from winning rounds.

2010 Div 7 Allstar in Stock
Went to US Nationals 2010 and beat a couple of the very Best Drag Pack Cars.
4th in Div 7 2010
3rd at Winters' 2012. Stock

His ragged 11 Sec. SS Aspen has beaten several New Mustangs and
8 Sec. Modified cars at National races that run 40 to 50 MPH Faster.

My old 13 Second Valiant won Pro Track Champ. LVMS against Mostly
8 to 10 Sec transbrake cars that are 60 MPH plus faster on our Div 7 Winning Team and I can't findthe bathroom without a flashlight at Night!

If you cut a light and know your car and weather well enough to Dial it right AND know where the finish is.......You will be OK with your slow slugmobile!

Just my .02 worth, sorry for the rant.

We bring to the races cars we can afford to build and still
pay the rest of our bills and eat regular every day!

There are not many people in our neck of the woods that can
race 100K plus cars.........If you can that is good and you are fortunate!

Irving Family Racing

A delayed reply to your post, but well said John...I couldn't have said it better myself. Wind may be a greater challenge, but my lack of necessary funds to afford to race has hurt my effort to win more than anything, because it's challenged my ability to go racing. Thus I go to races that give me a chance to win big money instead of local stuff, that causes me to have to attend a bunch more races (provided I'd win them all...not likely in reality due to awesome competition here), just to have a chance to win anywhere near the funds my previous race offered...that $5k would've been great, and the last time I had money like that to spend on racing, I finished in a 3 way tie for 29th in D7's stock eliminator points...what I was able to earn with my slower roller would've had me between 18th and 28th, for all of the other divisions in 2008 besides D1. I know it can be done, and I'm trying to be a player in that more challenging game....winners never quit, and quitters never win!!!

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by cicero819

Gary you have one of the best and probaly one of the first to have won a Wally right in your backyard in Mark Yaccavone. The late great Steve Taylor told me his secret to his success was to make sure to not line up on the previous cars groove but just off completly with street tires. Good luck. Claude

Mark Yaccavone, is still the only fwd national event winner (especially on the NHRA side of stock eliminator), and I forget the guys name (it's from a thread from 2-3yrs ago), but there was a guy who currently is the only NHRA divisional event winner (either from the year before, or after '86 when Mark won his race in E-town)! If memory serves me correctly, Marks win was in a Ford, and that other guys win was in a Mopar product, thus there are several first's out there waiting for fwd slower rollers:

1. No GM product has won a NHRA national or divisional event ever!

2. No fwd car has won a NHRA national/divisional event so far this century!

3. No fwd car has finished in the top ten NHRA national/divisional points standings!

4. I'm not sure where the IHRA is with regards to this (Michael Beard I hope you will enlighten me here), but I think the above applies to IHRA too (unless you or that Cavalier stocker racer from back in the '80's who inspired me to build/race my car, did it)?

5. There's never been a multiple event winner with a fwd stocker!

There's five REALLY BIG reasons I continue (as best I can), to race my fwd slower roller. Once I get my financial house in better shape, I'm going after all of those that aren't nabbed by someone else out there with the appropriate race cars...I like a challenge, and my $5k slower roller is waiting for it's chance to show (by more race time), it's capable of
winning too.

Oh, and one more thing, where Jody and Toby's stockers are concerned, only Jody's car qualifies as a slow stocker, since any car that runs quicker than a 12.00 is still in the faster half of stock eliminator, and Toby's G/SA is (even by alphabetical listings), one of the faster stocker cars known the nation over....just sayin'.

[Dennis P Chapman]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Mark Yaccavone, is still the only fwd national event winner (especially on the NHRA side of stock eliminator), and I forget the guys name (it's from a thread from 2-3yrs ago), but there was a guy who currently is the only NHRA divisional event winner (either from the year before, or after '86 when Mark won his race in E-town)! If memory serves me correctly, Marks win was in a Ford, and that other guys win was in a Mopar product, thus there are several first's out there waiting for fwd slower rollers:

1. No GM product has won a NHRA national or divisional event ever!

2. No fwd car has won a NHRA national/divisional event so far this century!

3. No fwd car has finished in the top ten NHRA national/divisional points standings!

4. I'm not sure where the IHRA is with regards to this (Michael Beard I hope you will enlighten me here), but I think the above applies to IHRA too (unless you or that Cavalier stocker racer from back in the '80's who inspired me to build/race my car, did it)?

5. There's never been a multiple event winner with a fwd stocker!

There's five REALLY BIG reasons I continue (as best I can), to race my fwd slower roller. Once I get my financial house in better shape, I'm going after all of those that aren't nabbed by someone else out there with the appropriate race cars...I like a challenge, and my $5k slower roller is waiting for it's chance to show (by more race time), it's capable of
winning too.

Oh, and one more thing, where Jody and Toby's stockers are concerned, only Jody's car qualifies as a slow stocker, since any car that runs quicker than a 12.00 is still in the faster half of stock eliminator, and Toby's G/SA is (even by alphabetical listings), one of the faster stocker cars known the nation over....just sayin'.

Mark won in a ford escort...........Bill Oconner won the div race in dodge omni.

[GarysZ24]

After reading a thread that started 12-10-08 titled "Lower Class Stockers", I now realize that Kyle Riley finished Div. 3 in the top ten a few times (so the divisional half of my #3 referrence was wrong), and Mike Carr, now Bill O'Conner, & Kyle Riley have won divisionals with fwd cars.

As for my #4, comment, IHRA had a national event winner (per Brett Kepner), as far back as 1977!

Dennis, when did Bill win that division race? Belated congrats to Bill for doing it!

At least after reading that earlier mentioned thread, my points #'s 1, 2 & 5 (national events only), are still out there to grab, as well as #3 nationally, are still up for grabs. So there's plenty to shoot for, and if I'm not fortunate enough to do it, then I hope Mike, or someone else out there trying to get 'er done, with a fwd stocker will, because that'll be more significant given the higher degree of difficulty in such an accomplishment!