New cars, old cars and horsepower ratings. - Page 6

Mickey Whaley · 09-19-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

No sir, Don't like it. Don't like it one bit.

Billy how many new cars are in your class?

Mickey Whaley · 09-19-2012, 01:09 PM

the Hp might be close if NHRA wouldnt have mysteriously dropped the index 3 tenths

Jeff Lee · 09-19-2012, 01:39 PM

Upcoming Stick Combo entrants that will compete against one another in Pennsylvania. Guess which guys don't even have a chance? Do you think if those pre-1992 vehicles lost 5% in HP rating they may have a fighting chance? What if the new Super Cars gained 3% HP at the same time? Hmm....

Stick
1587 AA/S Don Fezell Du Bois PA '08 Mustang MRLN 331
3695 A/S Luke Ubelhor Bristow IN '09 Challenger Dodg 370
1222 P/S Joe Cokinos Elmwood Park NJ '96 S-10 Chev 262
1578 G/S Jim Roberts Portsmouth RI '69 Camaro Chev 350
1609 F/S Louis Centolanza Newburgh NY '69 Plymouth Plym 383
1710 D/S Jerry Mac Neish Eldersburg MD '67 Camaro Chev 302
19 C/S Mike Ficacci East Hanover NJ '12 Ford Ford 302

junior barns · 09-19-2012, 01:45 PM

my money is on mike ficacci! probably wont even be close.

Bruce Noland · 09-19-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by junior barns

my money is on mike ficacci! probably wont even be close.

I agree providing he runs in the combo. His first pass, supposedly in D/S, was 10.43 @ 134.20 mph. I wouldn't want to make an assumption here but that seems like a lot of mph for a D/S car, and that is with a 1.56 sixty foot. hmmmm

Bill Grubbs · 09-19-2012, 02:11 PM

Do I wish they would have kept the rules the same (i.e. if a care gets to much HP then it is asuperstock only car)...YES I do, but they did not ask me. Do I like the new cars...Yes I do. Would I like to have a new Camaro...Yes I would.

However be careful what you wish for in proposing new ideas. How about a '69 Impala with a new small blower Chevy engine 4000+lbs going 10.0's or faster.

Greg, I agree with most things you write/propose, but GT Stock is a stupid idea. Stay out of Larry's Kentucky's Finest. Figure 75+ classes how many heads ups would there be. Class wins would mean nothing...It will be a big Stick/Auto Combo. Wait...that's a great idea, They could even lump us in with Comp by creating classes with lower indexes. Then get rid of Stock once and for all. Yeah, thats the ticket.

I do agree with Creating lower weight breaks for GT in Super Stock. Now that would be a kick in the pants!

Jeff Lee · 09-19-2012, 03:17 PM

I think it would be a cold day in he!! before NHRA considers adding more classes. I do think there is a glimmer of hope that they can cut classes in half by combining sticks and auto's.

I had lunch yesterday with a Stock racer that once raced a stick in A/S and now has an auto trans in the same car for A/SA racing. One of the big reasons he put an auto in the car was the chance for more heads up racing as the A/S field dried up around him. This guy's a serious racer and has held A/S records and spends an enormous amount of time improving his car; stick or auto under the floors, doesn't matter. He didn't hesitate a second when I asked him if sticks and auto's should be combined. He said, "hell yes!" and then stated he would probably put a stick back into the car and he could care less if the HP assigned was for the auto, stick or in between. No index changes, just run what ya brung!

Tom Nolan · 09-19-2012, 03:34 PM

I don't remember why the Fuel Injection cars don't have their own classes? Why were they dropped?

Billy Nees · 09-19-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley

Billy how many new cars are in your class?

Mickey, that's harsh. Wanna borrow a 6 cylinder?

Bob Bender · 09-19-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

No sir, Don't like it. Don't like it one bit.

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09-19-2012, 01:09 PM	#52
Mickey Whaley VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,220 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: New cars, old cars and horsepower ratings. the Hp might be close if NHRA wouldnt have mysteriously dropped the index 3 tenths

09-19-2012, 01:39 PM	#53
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: New cars, old cars and horsepower ratings. Upcoming Stick Combo entrants that will compete against one another in Pennsylvania. Guess which guys don't even have a chance? Do you think if those pre-1992 vehicles lost 5% in HP rating they may have a fighting chance? What if the new Super Cars gained 3% HP at the same time? Hmm.... Stick 1587 AA/S Don Fezell Du Bois PA '08 Mustang MRLN 331 3695 A/S Luke Ubelhor Bristow IN '09 Challenger Dodg 370 1222 P/S Joe Cokinos Elmwood Park NJ '96 S-10 Chev 262 1578 G/S Jim Roberts Portsmouth RI '69 Camaro Chev 350 1609 F/S Louis Centolanza Newburgh NY '69 Plymouth Plym 383 1710 D/S Jerry Mac Neish Eldersburg MD '67 Camaro Chev 302 19 C/S Mike Ficacci East Hanover NJ '12 Ford Ford 302 __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

09-19-2012, 01:45 PM	#54
junior barns Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 541 Likes: 11 Liked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: New cars, old cars and horsepower ratings. my money is on mike ficacci! probably wont even be close.

09-19-2012, 02:11 PM	#56
Bill Grubbs Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Magnolia, Texas Posts: 416 Likes: 3 Liked 564 Times in 66 Posts	Re: New cars, old cars and horsepower ratings. Do I wish they would have kept the rules the same (i.e. if a care gets to much HP then it is asuperstock only car)...YES I do, but they did not ask me. Do I like the new cars...Yes I do. Would I like to have a new Camaro...Yes I would. However be careful what you wish for in proposing new ideas. How about a '69 Impala with a new small blower Chevy engine 4000+lbs going 10.0's or faster. Greg, I agree with most things you write/propose, but GT Stock is a stupid idea. Stay out of Larry's Kentucky's Finest. Figure 75+ classes how many heads ups would there be. Class wins would mean nothing...It will be a big Stick/Auto Combo. Wait...that's a great idea, They could even lump us in with Comp by creating classes with lower indexes. Then get rid of Stock once and for all. Yeah, thats the ticket. I do agree with Creating lower weight breaks for GT in Super Stock. Now that would be a kick in the pants!

09-19-2012, 03:17 PM	#57
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: New cars, old cars and horsepower ratings. I think it would be a cold day in he!! before NHRA considers adding more classes. I do think there is a glimmer of hope that they can cut classes in half by combining sticks and auto's. I had lunch yesterday with a Stock racer that once raced a stick in A/S and now has an auto trans in the same car for A/SA racing. One of the big reasons he put an auto in the car was the chance for more heads up racing as the A/S field dried up around him. This guy's a serious racer and has held A/S records and spends an enormous amount of time improving his car; stick or auto under the floors, doesn't matter. He didn't hesitate a second when I asked him if sticks and auto's should be combined. He said, "hell yes!" and then stated he would probably put a stick back into the car and he could care less if the HP assigned was for the auto, stick or in between. No index changes, just run what ya brung! __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

09-19-2012, 03:34 PM	#58
Tom Nolan Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lacombe, Alberta, Canada Posts: 182 Likes: 0 Liked 64 Times in 11 Posts	Re: New cars, old cars and horsepower ratings. I don't remember why the Fuel Injection cars don't have their own classes? Why were they dropped?