New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??

[THE LEGEND]

It's a good deal. Do you want to run 2-3 tenths under or 1 second under? If the answer is 1 second under get out the check book its gonna be expensive. If you just want to get in the game then its a good deal.
Now if you're interested I have a P/SA Cutlass 7-8 under for $14,000

[davidhuff]

Originally Posted by Allen Sherman

Oh and in response to some other posts on this topic, from carb to pan for a 1.00 second under 305 with the absolute best parts available today all brand new there's no way you can build one for under $20,000...I'm talking dart block, top notch heads and intake, roller rockers, tool steel lifters, manley pro I beam rods, good pistons, the right ring set, etc...just being honest, the parts alone are over $15,000

And members talk and complain about the new stockers from the factory.
Dart Block
Top Notch Heads and IntakeI
Roller rockers
Tool Steel Lifters
Manley Pro I Beam Rods
High Dollar Pistons
Wow,these parts cost over $15,000?

[Ed Wright]

Not the cost or parts in the new cars, it's the bogus low hp factors.

[Rick Leininger Jr.]

Originally Posted by davidhuff

And members talk and complain about the new stockers from the factory.
Dart Block
Top Notch Heads and IntakeI
Roller rockers
Tool Steel Lifters
Manley Pro I Beam Rods
High Dollar Pistons
Wow,these parts cost over $15,000?

And then some, if you're trying to run up front.

[Greg Hill]

Originally Posted by davidhuff

And members talk and complain about the new stockers from the factory.
Dart Block
Top Notch Heads and IntakeI
Roller rockers
Tool Steel Lifters
Manley Pro I Beam Rods
High Dollar Pistons
Wow,these parts cost over $15,000?

There is no way those parts cost 15,000 for a small block Chevy. The block is around $1300, the rods about $600, pistons and rings $1200, roller rockers $300, don't know about tool steel lifters, we run Smith lifters which are around $700. That adds up to $3700 before the heads and intake. Let's allow $4300 for the heads and intake from Top Notch. Looks like 8k to me. I realize it takes more parts than that, cam, bearings, gaskets, oil pump, and assorted others. I bet you I could get an good engine builder I happen to know well to build a 1.10 under 305 for 12k with some really good stuff and would go right through tear down.

[Signman]

Originally Posted by Greg Hill

There is no way those parts cost 15,000 for a small block Chevy. The block is around $1300, the rods about $600, pistons and rings $1200, roller rockers $300, don't know about tool steel lifters, we run Smith lifters which are around $700. That adds up to $3700 before the heads and intake. Let's allow $4300 for the heads and intake from Top Notch. Looks like 8k to me. I realize it takes more parts than that, cam, bearings, gaskets, oil pump, and assorted others. I bet you I could get an good engine builder I happen to know well to build a 1.10 under 305 for 12k with some really good stuff and would go right through tear down.

The next tenth is 10K at least if you already have the rest of the car sorted out.

[Allen Sherman]

Not gonna get in a pissing match on here but here's the break down on parts cost:
Dart block all done, bored, honed, lifter bushed and race ready is $2500
Top notch heads and intake with valves, springs, head studs and guide plates $5000
Tool steel lifters top notch dlc coated from trend $1100
Roller rockers from comp, ultra pro magnum $500+
Metric ring set with ring spacers (best stuff) $1375
Manley pro I beam rods $1175
Cp stocker pistons $800-1000
Good crank is gonna run you $1000

And you still haven't bought pushrods, gaskets, timing set, bearings, timing cover, oil pan, carb, and all the little accesories. I build these for a living and buy the parts on a daily basis so I kinda know what it costs...and I also can gurantee mine will go "right through tear down" also...

[HR9121]

Wow! My little spare parts 6k motor is looking better all the time lol. Don't run too bad either.

[Bill Diehl]

Originally Posted by Allen Sherman

Not gonna get in a pissing match on here but here's the break down on parts cost:
Dart block all done, bored, honed, lifter bushed and race ready is $2500
Top notch heads and intake with valves, springs, head studs and guide plates $5000
Tool steel lifters top notch dlc coated from trend $1100
Roller rockers from comp, ultra pro magnum $500+
Metric ring set with ring spacers (best stuff) $1375
Manley pro I beam rods $1175
Cp stocker pistons $800-1000
Good crank is gonna run you $1000

And you still haven't bought pushrods, gaskets, timing set, bearings, timing cover, oil pan, carb, and all the little accesories. I build these for a living and buy the parts on a daily basis so I kinda know what it costs...and I also can gurantee mine will go "right through tear down" also...

roller rockers from comp
Double that if you opt for the big studs, and install adjusters in the rockers...triple it if you can't do it yourself.....and I am jus talking about the rockers

[Dave Gantz]

Wow. Definitely not the Stock Eliminator I was attracted to in the 70's!