AA/S AAA/S and Class consolidation

Troy Henderson · 09-10-2007, 09:59 AM

Heard this weekend that next year there will be a 7.5 and 7.0 lb weight break for the newer high H.P. cars and Fuel Injection is being consolidated. Any one else get wind of this???

Jim Cimarolli · 09-10-2007, 10:18 AM

Same as what you heard Troy, but nothing in stone, just rumors for now.
I think it is a mistake to combine the FI cars, why should they want to rock the boat like that?
Sit down and do the math, lots of us with the older cars can go home if they do this.

Bobby Lundholm · 09-10-2007, 02:20 PM

If this is going to be the case I would like to see 5 or more hp come off the 255/350 motor. I can't keep up with a fuel injected car that can tuned by a computer. I see that would be the only way to make it somewhat fair.
I remember when the F/I cars first came into stock running G/SA and H/SA and how fair it was then. So all the D/FIA will now be running G/SA since they have the same index. What combinations currently run in D/FIA?

Woodro Josey · 09-10-2007, 07:19 PM

Jim, how fast can you go in B/SA? Bobby, NHRA has put 61 horsepower on the LT1 since we first came out with the F body! The DF/IA cars have to weigh better than 3800 lbs with an LT1.

pauldilcher · 09-10-2007, 07:46 PM

JIM , you hit the nail right on the head, we can go home. The lower the class the worse it gets.

Bobby Lundholm · 09-11-2007, 08:15 AM

Woodro,

What about the 1990 Corvette,the 1993 Mustang, and the 1985 Carmaro? What GM cars that came with the LT1 have to weigh 3800 lbs? Were those the Caprices, and Impalas?

Woodro Josey · 09-11-2007, 11:20 AM

Bobby, any Camaro or Firebird Convertible that runs DF/IA has to weigh 3866. I saw where a Div1 G/SA went 11.12 i believe on the brakes, havent seen a DF/IA car go that fast lately!

Chris1529 · 09-11-2007, 11:34 AM

Evan Smith is the only Mustang that can run that fast. I believe he went 10.86 in SS/K at Englishtowntrim earlier in the year and just went 10.91 in stock this past weekend at the LODRS there.

Dean Cook II went 11.80 in F/FI at Indy in a 1995 cobra
Richard Zink II went 11.96 in G/FI at Indy. in an LX body stlye

those are just about the fastest stocker Ford Fuel Injected cars that I can think of. I appologize if anyone out there has gone faster. I don' t think the GM cars have anything to worry about there.

Jim Cimarolli · 09-11-2007, 12:24 PM

I'm not picking on you guys Woody, I just don't think they should combine us thats my point. The darned AHFS is already enough of a joke without complicating things IMO.

RJ Sledge · 09-11-2007, 02:23 PM

Jim I agree with you 100%

Don't want to get all the FI gods mad, but it is quite evident that the hp ratings on some of these combo's don't equate.

I can understand NHRA wanting to combine classes, but how can they throw us all in together and hope that the AHFS will work this time, since it never has worked it the past?

If the FI cars were closer in actual HP numbers, I would have no objection to combining all, but I don't think they are even close in most of the combinations. One just has to look at the qualifying sheets from Division races.

What about combining all stick and auto classes, just keeping the carb cars and FI cars separate?

R J Sledge

09-10-2007, 09:59 AM	#1
Troy Henderson Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kansas City Posts: 412 Likes: 127 Liked 130 Times in 42 Posts	AA/S AAA/S and Class consolidation Heard this weekend that next year there will be a 7.5 and 7.0 lb weight break for the newer high H.P. cars and Fuel Injection is being consolidated. Any one else get wind of this??? __________________ Troy Henderson Henderson Race Shop LLC 816-520-5389 www.hendersonraceshop.com

09-10-2007, 10:18 AM	#2
Jim Cimarolli Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sulphur Springs Texas Posts: 743 Likes: 146 Liked 166 Times in 46 Posts	Re: AA/S AAA/S and Class consolidation Same as what you heard Troy, but nothing in stone, just rumors for now. I think it is a mistake to combine the FI cars, why should they want to rock the boat like that? Sit down and do the math, lots of us with the older cars can go home if they do this.

09-10-2007, 02:20 PM	#3
Bobby Lundholm Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlevoix, MI Posts: 453 Likes: 115 Liked 127 Times in 49 Posts	Re: AA/S AAA/S and Class consolidation If this is going to be the case I would like to see 5 or more hp come off the 255/350 motor. I can't keep up with a fuel injected car that can tuned by a computer. I see that would be the only way to make it somewhat fair. I remember when the F/I cars first came into stock running G/SA and H/SA and how fair it was then. So all the D/FIA will now be running G/SA since they have the same index. What combinations currently run in D/FIA? __________________ Bobby Lundholm 3516 G/SA

09-10-2007, 07:19 PM	#4
Woodro Josey Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 805 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: AA/S AAA/S and Class consolidation Jim, how fast can you go in B/SA? Bobby, NHRA has put 61 horsepower on the LT1 since we first came out with the F body! The DF/IA cars have to weigh better than 3800 lbs with an LT1. __________________ Woodro Josey 2002 STK

09-10-2007, 07:46 PM	#5
pauldilcher Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 425 Likes: 1 Liked 52 Times in 9 Posts	Re: AA/S AAA/S and Class consolidation JIM , you hit the nail right on the head, we can go home. The lower the class the worse it gets.

09-11-2007, 08:15 AM	#6
Bobby Lundholm Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlevoix, MI Posts: 453 Likes: 115 Liked 127 Times in 49 Posts	Re: AA/S AAA/S and Class consolidation Woodro, What about the 1990 Corvette,the 1993 Mustang, and the 1985 Carmaro? What GM cars that came with the LT1 have to weigh 3800 lbs? Were those the Caprices, and Impalas? __________________ Bobby Lundholm 3516 G/SA

09-11-2007, 11:20 AM	#7
Woodro Josey Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 805 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: AA/S AAA/S and Class consolidation Bobby, any Camaro or Firebird Convertible that runs DF/IA has to weigh 3866. I saw where a Div1 G/SA went 11.12 i believe on the brakes, havent seen a DF/IA car go that fast lately! __________________ Woodro Josey 2002 STK

09-11-2007, 11:34 AM	#8
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: AA/S AAA/S and Class consolidation Evan Smith is the only Mustang that can run that fast. I believe he went 10.86 in SS/K at Englishtowntrim earlier in the year and just went 10.91 in stock this past weekend at the LODRS there. Dean Cook II went 11.80 in F/FI at Indy in a 1995 cobra Richard Zink II went 11.96 in G/FI at Indy. in an LX body stlye those are just about the fastest stocker Ford Fuel Injected cars that I can think of. I appologize if anyone out there has gone faster. I don' t think the GM cars have anything to worry about there. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

09-11-2007, 12:24 PM	#9
Jim Cimarolli Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sulphur Springs Texas Posts: 743 Likes: 146 Liked 166 Times in 46 Posts	Re: AA/S AAA/S and Class consolidation I'm not picking on you guys Woody, I just don't think they should combine us thats my point. The darned AHFS is already enough of a joke without complicating things IMO.

09-11-2007, 02:23 PM	#10
RJ Sledge Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 788 Likes: 504 Liked 288 Times in 90 Posts	Re: AA/S AAA/S and Class consolidation Jim I agree with you 100% Don't want to get all the FI gods mad, but it is quite evident that the hp ratings on some of these combo's don't equate. I can understand NHRA wanting to combine classes, but how can they throw us all in together and hope that the AHFS will work this time, since it never has worked it the past? If the FI cars were closer in actual HP numbers, I would have no objection to combining all, but I don't think they are even close in most of the combinations. One just has to look at the qualifying sheets from Division races. What about combining all stick and auto classes, just keeping the carb cars and FI cars separate? R J Sledge