Slow Stockers...Strong Divisional Finishes - Page 6

GTS340 · 12-01-2020, 12:59 PM

I'm pretty sure the 8-9 second cars don't say "perfect I have a 14 second or slower car this round." Slow cars are always tough races. I've been around long enough and raced in division one when .530 Mike Smith with his U/SA wagon and Mr. Six cylinder Nova Billy Nees were always in the late rounds.
I drove Larry Zugehoer's spirit of 67 U/SA wagon once. It had a great crisp sound and would snap off the line. I've had neck surgery since those early 70's. Turning around that long looking for my competitor would hurt these days.

Happy Holidays,
Paul Haszlauer

Larry Hill · 12-01-2020, 02:13 PM

The advantage of a slow car is a clean tree and very little chance of a heads up. Disadvantage is mother nature messes with you real bad with weather.

Curt Rees · 12-01-2020, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill

The advantage of a slow car is a clean tree and very little chance of a heads up. Disadvantage is mother nature messes with you real bad with weather.

Case in point, at the Kearney NE Midwest Class Racer event in October. My best run was -.66 under, index was 15:76. That was with a 10-15 mph NW wind. Track runs SE/NW. During Sunday elimination, the wind switched to the S/SW at 10-15 mph. My last elimination round, I dialed a 14:81 and went a 14.79, -.97 under. -.31 pick up strickly because of the wind change. I made no changes to the car, just tried to dial the best I could.

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Billy Nees · 12-01-2020, 06:46 PM

Well, you can believe it or not but my 6 cyl. Nova would move .01 for every MPH of wind. In other words, if we went from a 5 MPH head wind to a 5 MPH tail wind the car would pick up a tenth!

GTS340 · 12-01-2020, 08:35 PM

I need to correct myself. It was the early 80's. I'm old but adding 10 yrs to my age made my bones ache.

Mark Yacavone · 12-01-2020, 10:23 PM

Two things that really seem to help with the weather changes }

Billy Nees · 12-02-2020, 08:25 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I can agree with that^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

jmcarter · 12-02-2020, 08:44 AM

That would have been a great car to buy when you put it out there in Feb. Another of my poor 2020 decisions to not go for it. Is someone campaigning it now or have a 2021 resurrection planned?

Wonder if we could start a TruStart poll without the drama? Nay, probably impossible unless YoKen can work his magic.

GarysZ24 · 12-21-2020, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Carguy49

I think I will throw this into the mix

I guess the point of my ramblings is to say the driver is as important as the car. Can a slow car win, YES, but I think a faster car is less affected by changes in weather, altitude or other things that affect a car, making it harder to dial. Just ask a guy like Gary Hampton about that.

Ron I will tell you this, I like tracks that are south facing (such as my home track WHPMSP). Vegas being a north facing track is tricky because it has changing wind speeds and directions. However, my last race of 2020 was lost by only .0057 (in spite of a .100rt against a .008). Yes changing weather conditions affect slower rollers more so than faster cars, but I liken our kind of racing to chess or checkers at speed (the moves you choose will either make or break you, and that affects faster cars too)! I love the challenge, and look forward to more opportunities to prove one can win with a FWD or slower classes car!

Greg Gay · 02-06-2021, 10:42 PM

I'm having trouble attaching the pictures, but there is a car less than a mile from me that looks just like the one Yac posted the picture of. I've noticed it for a couple of days, but today I saw that there is a for sale sign on it. It's even the same color. If someone near New England wants to build a slow stocker, here is an option. It is located in Bellows Falls VT, 802-591-2337. If you have any trouble making contact, contact me and I'll stop and inquire about the car.

12-01-2020, 12:59 PM	#51
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 876 Likes: 283 Liked 1,354 Times in 413 Posts	Re: Slow Stockers...Strong Divisional Finishes I'm pretty sure the 8-9 second cars don't say "perfect I have a 14 second or slower car this round." Slow cars are always tough races. I've been around long enough and raced in division one when .530 Mike Smith with his U/SA wagon and Mr. Six cylinder Nova Billy Nees were always in the late rounds. I drove Larry Zugehoer's spirit of 67 U/SA wagon once. It had a great crisp sound and would snap off the line. I've had neck surgery since those early 70's. Turning around that long looking for my competitor would hurt these days. Happy Holidays, Paul Haszlauer

12-01-2020, 02:13 PM	#52
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,671 Likes: 1,987 Liked 10,913 Times in 2,256 Posts	Re: Slow Stockers...Strong Divisional Finishes The advantage of a slow car is a clean tree and very little chance of a heads up. Disadvantage is mother nature messes with you real bad with weather. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

12-01-2020, 08:35 PM	#55
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 876 Likes: 283 Liked 1,354 Times in 413 Posts	Re: Slow Stockers...Strong Divisional Finishes I need to correct myself. It was the early 80's. I'm old but adding 10 yrs to my age made my bones ache.

12-01-2020, 10:23 PM	#56
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,833 Likes: 2,928 Liked 5,147 Times in 1,964 Posts	Re: Slow Stockers...Strong Divisional Finishes Two things that really seem to help with the weather changes } __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

12-02-2020, 08:25 AM	#57
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,506 Likes: 3,613 Liked 7,864 Times in 1,750 Posts	Re: Slow Stockers...Strong Divisional Finishes ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I can agree with that^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

12-01-2020, 06:46 PM	#54
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,506 Likes: 3,613 Liked 7,864 Times in 1,750 Posts	Re: Slow Stockers...Strong Divisional Finishes Well, you can believe it or not but my 6 cyl. Nova would move .01 for every MPH of wind. In other words, if we went from a 5 MPH head wind to a 5 MPH tail wind the car would pick up a tenth! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

12-02-2020, 08:44 AM	#58
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,309 Likes: 2,429 Liked 3,231 Times in 982 Posts	Re: Slow Stockers...Strong Divisional Finishes That would have been a great car to buy when you put it out there in Feb. Another of my poor 2020 decisions to not go for it. Is someone campaigning it now or have a 2021 resurrection planned? Wonder if we could start a TruStart poll without the drama? Nay, probably impossible unless YoKen can work his magic. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table Last edited by jmcarter; 12-02-2020 at 08:50 AM.

02-06-2021, 10:42 PM	#60
Greg Gay Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 389 Likes: 22 Liked 286 Times in 73 Posts	Re: Slow Stockers...Strong Divisional Finishes I'm having trouble attaching the pictures, but there is a car less than a mile from me that looks just like the one Yac posted the picture of. I've noticed it for a couple of days, but today I saw that there is a for sale sign on it. It's even the same color. If someone near New England wants to build a slow stocker, here is an option. It is located in Bellows Falls VT, 802-591-2337. If you have any trouble making contact, contact me and I'll stop and inquire about the car.