Have you heard what IHRA is thinking of doing with the points? - Page 7

jdfpam · 11-11-2008, 10:10 PM

Chip,
Your right, all of the IHRA races that I have won or runner-up at were 5 or 6 round races. I have never scored at a 7 rounder yet. I also agree that bracket racing sucks today, that is why I quit 7 years ago. Nothing against it, I just don't like trying to footbrake against mostly super pro type cars. That is why I came to stock.
I meant that you can win $1,000.00 anywhere up here any given weekend. The $1,000.00 is what IHRA pays, I was only refering to their part. Don't get me wrong, I would rather do this than bracket race, but if it gets too bad, some of us have to look at it twice.
Back in 2004 when I started running stock, I could win over $10,000.00 at nationals, and around $3,500 at points meets. In 2008 when I won quaker city, I got about $2,600.00 with $400.00 of that being from Mopar alone! Check that, I haven't received half of my contingency yet, and it worries me that I might not get all of it. The point is, they raised the entry, started charging insurance (which I think is for the Pro's?) and they haven't changed the purse since when? Plus, the cost of everything is much higher, and the contingency is lower. It still pays well, just worst than it was.
As far as making profit, I am in business and realize that it is why you do it at the end of the day. They need us and we need them! There just needs to be a happier medium. I kind of see where they think that this will bring more cars in. However, a know a lot of people will just win one race and go run NHRA for the rest of the year. So, that is going to hurt the car count. I think that they should still have some sort of points fund and chase to keep most people going to a lot of races. Because, if they don't, there very well may a world champion next year that only runs 2 IHRA race in 2009. Does anyone really think that should be considered the season champ?

Jeff Day
#3731

Mark Lewis · 11-11-2008, 10:46 PM

Purses have not kept up with expenses at all. Bristol in 1985 was 75.00 to enter and I won about 7500.00 if I remember correctly. That did not include all the goodies that Winston gave us or what the manufacturers would give you.

Alex Denysenko · 11-12-2008, 12:56 AM

Just in case you all forgot, IHRA also actually cut the sportsman purses in 2005
(the same year they dropped division 5).
First round winner money was removed as of 2005 and obviously never returned with the entry fee increases.
They really need to get the payouts up if they expect to attract more NHRA cross over racers.

Ed Wright · 11-12-2008, 02:49 PM

NHRA nor IHRA's purses have come close to keeping up. When I quit drag racing in 1979 a Div 4 NHRA points race paid about the same as now. In the early '70s Indy paid Stock Eliminator about ten grand with all the correct contingencies. If you had to kill your record (before this soft index bs) in the final to win you could collect enough to build another car. Today, if you are one of the guys that have to buy engines, winning Indy won't pay for a new engine. Be really close if you build your own. There are so many classes now, like the old AHRA, I don't see how a class contingency sponsor can afford to keep doing it.

Mike Leopold · 11-12-2008, 10:25 PM

I would like to see the top 8 in points go to the last race and run for the championship. They would be separated from the rest of the cars in the same category and run each other one time (7 rounds total). The driver with the most round wins is the champ. Ties would be determined by which driver won the round they raced each other, then by points earned during the season. They would not be in the regular eliminator race, so someone who is not in the top 8 would win it. Whoever wins the championship this way would have earned it.

trmnatr · 11-13-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Leopold

I would like to see the top 8 in points go to the last race and run for the championship. They would be separated from the rest of the cars in the same category and run each other one time (7 rounds total). The driver with the most round wins is the champ. Ties would be determined by which driver won the round they raced each other, then by points earned during the season. They would not be in the regular eliminator race, so someone who is not in the top 8 would win it. Whoever wins the championship this way would have earned it.

I think their new way would be good,,,,

I know guys that have a Super Stock car that can run with all of the class, They dont have the $$ to race the whole season, they have family

The only reason racers are scared of this new system is because they are scared someone will be better than them,,,, In racing thats what its all about anyways,,, If you loose you loose, it doesnt make a difference if its a local racer or not, a loose is a loose

If this were NHRA id say no, NHRA is the big $$$ racers and they can afford it, Alot of people look at IHRA as the sportsman rankings for the working man.

The racers that are dominating are scared of someone being better than them, otherwise they wouldnt care because they have the best car out there, or do they??

Stacie J. Ridings · 11-13-2008, 05:23 PM

I've got an idea. Take the best 5 finishers in each division,(ever how many of them there will be), and have an IROC type drag race. The top five from each class must race identical Corvettes from a local dealership near the IHRA World Champion Race. The World Champion gets to keep their ride!

Sean Kennedy · 11-23-2008, 10:12 PM

This is no official.

Look for the a lot more guys to show up in edmonton this year.

Stock 608 · 11-24-2008, 09:13 PM

I was planing on edmonton anyway, so that would make it even better!

11-11-2008, 10:10 PM	#61
jdfpam Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 186 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Have you heard what IHRA is thinking of doing with the points? Chip, Your right, all of the IHRA races that I have won or runner-up at were 5 or 6 round races. I have never scored at a 7 rounder yet. I also agree that bracket racing sucks today, that is why I quit 7 years ago. Nothing against it, I just don't like trying to footbrake against mostly super pro type cars. That is why I came to stock. I meant that you can win $1,000.00 anywhere up here any given weekend. The $1,000.00 is what IHRA pays, I was only refering to their part. Don't get me wrong, I would rather do this than bracket race, but if it gets too bad, some of us have to look at it twice. Back in 2004 when I started running stock, I could win over $10,000.00 at nationals, and around $3,500 at points meets. In 2008 when I won quaker city, I got about $2,600.00 with $400.00 of that being from Mopar alone! Check that, I haven't received half of my contingency yet, and it worries me that I might not get all of it. The point is, they raised the entry, started charging insurance (which I think is for the Pro's?) and they haven't changed the purse since when? Plus, the cost of everything is much higher, and the contingency is lower. It still pays well, just worst than it was. As far as making profit, I am in business and realize that it is why you do it at the end of the day. They need us and we need them! There just needs to be a happier medium. I kind of see where they think that this will bring more cars in. However, a know a lot of people will just win one race and go run NHRA for the rest of the year. So, that is going to hurt the car count. I think that they should still have some sort of points fund and chase to keep most people going to a lot of races. Because, if they don't, there very well may a world champion next year that only runs 2 IHRA race in 2009. Does anyone really think that should be considered the season champ? Jeff Day #3731

11-11-2008, 10:46 PM	#62
Mark Lewis Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 346 Likes: 63 Liked 207 Times in 44 Posts	Re: Have you heard what IHRA is thinking of doing with the points? Purses have not kept up with expenses at all. Bristol in 1985 was 75.00 to enter and I won about 7500.00 if I remember correctly. That did not include all the goodies that Winston gave us or what the manufacturers would give you.

11-12-2008, 12:56 AM	#63
Alex Denysenko Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Michigan City IN Posts: 633 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Have you heard what IHRA is thinking of doing with the points? Just in case you all forgot, IHRA also actually cut the sportsman purses in 2005 (the same year they dropped division 5). First round winner money was removed as of 2005 and obviously never returned with the entry fee increases. They really need to get the payouts up if they expect to attract more NHRA cross over racers.

11-12-2008, 02:49 PM	#64
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Have you heard what IHRA is thinking of doing with the points? NHRA nor IHRA's purses have come close to keeping up. When I quit drag racing in 1979 a Div 4 NHRA points race paid about the same as now. In the early '70s Indy paid Stock Eliminator about ten grand with all the correct contingencies. If you had to kill your record (before this soft index bs) in the final to win you could collect enough to build another car. Today, if you are one of the guys that have to buy engines, winning Indy won't pay for a new engine. Be really close if you build your own. There are so many classes now, like the old AHRA, I don't see how a class contingency sponsor can afford to keep doing it. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

11-12-2008, 10:25 PM	#65
Mike Leopold Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 20 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Have you heard what IHRA is thinking of doing with the points? I would like to see the top 8 in points go to the last race and run for the championship. They would be separated from the rest of the cars in the same category and run each other one time (7 rounds total). The driver with the most round wins is the champ. Ties would be determined by which driver won the round they raced each other, then by points earned during the season. They would not be in the regular eliminator race, so someone who is not in the top 8 would win it. Whoever wins the championship this way would have earned it. __________________ Mike Leopold 593 STK

11-13-2008, 05:23 PM	#67
Stacie J. Ridings Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Columbus, NC Posts: 143 Likes: 15 Liked 15 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Have you heard what IHRA is thinking of doing with the points? I've got an idea. Take the best 5 finishers in each division,(ever how many of them there will be), and have an IROC type drag race. The top five from each class must race identical Corvettes from a local dealership near the IHRA World Champion Race. The World Champion gets to keep their ride! __________________ Stacie J. Ridings 2028 STK

11-23-2008, 10:12 PM	#68
Sean Kennedy Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 182 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Have you heard what IHRA is thinking of doing with the points? This is no official. Look for the a lot more guys to show up in edmonton this year.

11-24-2008, 09:13 PM	#69
Stock 608 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: D6 Posts: 33 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Have you heard what IHRA is thinking of doing with the points? I was planing on edmonton anyway, so that would make it even better!