Overweight Stockers

[magnumv8]

I read that Danny and agree totally...but it should include that 170lbs and not even mention it.....that is where I was having a problem...when you look at the stocker specs on the spreadsheet now there is a dark grey area(color on my computer) to the right and if you scroll over on it, it tells you the actual weight of your combo now....it didn't used to be there and is easy to miss...BUT it still doesn't add the 170lbs.......

[Bob Bender]

BILLY, are you talking about my car ???? (overweight)

[John Mason]

Originally Posted by RockyJ

Billy : I know you must be waiting for someone else to point this out, so
if the 1978-79 caddy is 400 lbs heavy in u/sa ,that would mean that it would be
illegal under this interpretation of the weight rule.
The very reason that myself and another AZ racer decided not to build one of
those cars. Just in case nhra decided to enforce their own rules. Combo gone!!

Am I missing something?
Bob Shaw runs U/SA. Per the rule book the weight break is 20.00 OR MORE. There is no max weight, only minimum. T/SA is 19.00 to 19.99. There the max weight would apply, moving him into U/SA if he's over 19.99. It seems the only weight rule would be safety related.

[Jack Matyas]

Billy -Billy -Billy -- I'm really glad for you that its Spring .Why you say -- well maybe you can go plant some crops or something as this stuff is making you nuts (you've always been close) .After sixty some posts and half a zillion views it boils down to this -- who cares if some guys (or gals) want to run heavy ? Who does it hurt ? Why does it matter ? See you this weekend ........I'll be the one with big arms (from lifting weights) .

PS-- You can try like Hell but they'll never ever let you rewrite the rulebook . Been there - done that !

[Michael Beard]

It seems like the people piling on this thread do not seem to have the problem of an overwieght stocker BECAUSE,,,, THEY CAN"T GO FAST ENOUGH TO GET H.P.

Actually, it would still be an issue even if there was no such thing as HP factoring. You're trying to make the argument into more than it is.

There are a lot of guys I know that worked hard to go fast and don't want to get horsepower so they will not hurt the other racers who run the same combo but is not as fast as they are. So they add weight to slow their cars down.

So... their HP factor isn't correct?

[tgriffith]

you know after thinking that the weight listing was only a guide to what class your car "naturaly" fit and then what classes was available for one to run,,,not that Im in favor of it at all,,,,its does clearly list that a class is from a "certain point" to a "certain point",,,,again not that Im in favor of it at all,,,,if a car is illegal because too lite, wouldnt it also make it illegal if it was too heavy???

I looked at Ihra`s list of "no no`s" and it dont say anything about being throw out if your too lite,,,and likewise about being too heavy

This doesnt really even concern me as Im usually at min weight cause my little car has hard enough time as it is but it really does make sense,,,,,,,for me,,,no big deal,,,,Im a reforming bracket racer (LOL) who thinks any additional rules just complicates everything but for those who really thinks the adjuster needs "adjusted"......if cars dont run the correct weight,,,if cars are mis factored,,,if some runs arent counted,,if cars are allowed to run multiple classes to avoid heads up runs,,,whatever system they replace it with---WONT WORK.....so bring up a dust storm about max weight is really a moot point

but one thing I am curious about,,,,how did this go un noticed for the last 30 years???

[Chuck Porter]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Billy -Billy -Billy -- I'm really glad for you that its Spring .Why you say -- well maybe you can go plant some crops or something as this stuff is making you nuts (you've always been close) .After sixty some posts and half a zillion views it boils down to this -- who cares if some guys (or gals) want to run heavy ? Who does it hurt ? Why does it matter ? See you this weekend ........I'll be the one with big arms (from lifting weights) .

PS-- You can try like Hell but they'll never ever let you rewrite the rulebook . Been there - done that !

Hey Jack
You got my vote!!! You just went to the top of my Christmas Card list!!! LOL

Chuck Porter

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Billy -Billy -Billy -- I'm really glad for you that its Spring .Why you say -- well maybe you can go plant some crops or something as this stuff is making you nuts (you've always been close) .After sixty some posts and half a zillion views it boils down to this -- who cares if some guys (or gals) want to run heavy ? Who does it hurt ? Why does it matter ? See you this weekend ........I'll be the one with big arms (from lifting weights) .

PS-- You can try like Hell but they'll never ever let you rewrite the rulebook . Been there - done that !

This thread must had made some people soft in the head.In the discussion about the CJs there was an uproar that they were way under factored.There was word that they were running way heavy,obviously to slow them down.Who did it hurt.So far no one.Just wait till you start getting heads up runs,then it affects others.The common attitude on here is that " hey,if it doesn't directly affect me I don't give a ****".
We have only ourselves to blame.If we had some more people with Billy's integrity we could make some headway with the money jackals in Glendora.

Ed F.

[442OLDS]

The name of this post should really be "OVERWEIGHT DRIVERS",or "UNDERWEIGHT CARS."

I will use my car ,for example,since I know it best.My factored horsepower is 360.To run D/SA,the weight break is 9.5-9.99.My CAR needs to weigh between 3,420 pounds and 3,596 pounds.My CAR does weigh between this range.However,when I get in it,it does not meet the "MAX WEIGHT"

Now what if the car weighed 3340 pounds?
The car would be right on the minimum weight for D/SA with a 250 pound driver.However,the car would technically be "too light" for the class according to some of the logic in this thread.Maybe they need to start weighing the car/driver separate? LOL!

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by 442OLDS

The name of this post should really be "OVERWEIGHT DRIVERS",or "UNDERWEIGHT CARS."

I will use my car ,for example,since I know it best.My factored horsepower is 360.To run D/SA,the weight break is 9.5-9.99.My CAR needs to weigh between 3,420 pounds and 3,596 pounds.My CAR does weigh between this range.However,when I get in it,it does not meet the "MAX WEIGHT"

Now what if the car weighed 3340 pounds?
The car would be right on the minimum weight for D/SA with a 250 pound driver.However,the car would technically be "too light" for the class according to some of the logic in this thread.Maybe they need to start weighing the car/driver separate? LOL!

Maybe NHRA should up the weight for the driver,but how high do you go?200/225/250/300/400.I'm
serious,where do you adjust it to?I'm of the opinion that enough adjustment(removing odds and ends from the car) can accomodate most drivers.
There is no way to remove more weight from your 442?Spare tire,weight box etc?

Ed F.