2011 Dodge Challenger V10 Drag Pak - Page 7

Dgal · 10-02-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jared Jordan

I'm not sure for whom I sympathize more: the racers with the "old" combos or the guys that put $100k into their "new" rides just to see the factory build a better (read: quicker) mousetrap the following year. I suppose for those that can afford to keep up with the Joneses it really doesn't matter.

Jared,

I have thought about this, also. It is my opinion the real impact will be on guys that bought the new car combos. They will have had 3 years in some cases of an advantage to the older cars, but next year looks like they will be banging it out against each other. This can turn into an very, very expensive bracket car for them. Our car is just a very expensive bracket car. Not a very, very expensive one.

Don

blkjack · 10-02-2010, 08:24 PM

2speed?

WTF no ProTrans?

lstanford · 10-02-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by blkjack

2speed?

WTF no ProTrans?

Don't have a heart attack. It's an option, as is the blower and the turbocharger. I think the real intent is to replace the old Darts and Cudas in the Hemi Challenge with the new body style that they sell in the show room today. In either case, it is a deep pocket sport. Barton and Westcott will dislike it the most. I'm just saying..........

10-02-2010, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blkjack

2speed?

WTF no ProTrans?

Yeah , buyers could not afford it if it were a std option...... That option would put it over 90$? Wonder what the options will be? Liberty, Lenco, Bruno ??? /FX /FX /FX /FX /FX/.!!!!!

Chad Rhodes · 10-03-2010, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry Polley

Yeah , buyers could not afford it if it were a std option...... That option would put it over 90$? Wonder what the options will be? Liberty, Lenco, Bruno ??? /FX /FX /FX /FX /FX/.!!!!!

If I see one of those cars with a Bruno's in it.............................................nev ermind, at this point I wouldnt be shocked

JP · 10-03-2010, 06:13 AM

Modern transmissions have Roll Controll integrated, so that shouldn't be a suprise. But I must say that after five years of development of our SS/D V10 I am sceptical to this new package.... The small HEMI is a WAY better engine!

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Originally Posted by novassdude

What is a roll controll in a transmision if it is not a trans brake? What is next the delay box that is part of the factory computer so it is ok?

340Cuda · 10-03-2010, 08:47 AM

While I look forward to seeing these cars on the track, I don’t see anything wrong with the former policy of build 500 for stock, 50 for Super Stock and a few for FX.

In their day the 68 A body race cars had a lot of items that were pretty far afield from the production cars.

While I would like to see a lot of the cars in Super Stock run in a Modified Eliminator that is not going to happen, the 2011 Drag Paks are pretty tame compared to the little Pro Stockers that run in the eliminator today.

A little off this topic but like I have said before, we don’t need any more classes but I think the blown cars should be in separate classes.

Bill Lamb

novassdude · 10-03-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JP

Modern transmissions have Roll Controll integrated, so that shouldn't be a suprise. But I must say that after five years of development of our SS/D V10 I am sceptical to this new package.... The small HEMI is a WAY better engine!

So please explain to me how roll control works in a modern transmision. I have never noticed car companys touting this new advancment. But I must admit I have not really looked either. Do they hold the car still at iddle but let it move just above that or will it act as a trans brake.

JP · 10-03-2010, 11:17 AM

The customer do notice it when the function atomatically engage when standing still with the car in D in a steep hill...the car doesn't roll backwards even if you step of the trottle and don't use the brakes. I will remain in the same position until you floor it. In my mind the same function as a transbrake...

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Originally Posted by novassdude

So please explain to me how roll control works in a modern transmision. I have never noticed car companys touting this new advancment. But I must admit I have not really looked either. Do they hold the car still at iddle but let it move just above that or will it act as a trans brake.

Andys dad · 10-03-2010, 02:01 PM

Well I have held off posting because this sort screws up my idea of having the first V10 Viper in stock. Very disappointing for me.

This engine will be equipped with what is know as a "cam within a cam"

From Chrysler's post "Unique engine calibration"

Real time changes to lobe centers and duration and overlap by the on-board computer

I guess they have fixed the oiling issues the V10 has and figured out how to put some seat pressure on the valves

Move over boys there is a new sheriff in town

If you didn't like variable fuel adjustments during a run related to atmosphere and barometer - well now deal with - changing you cam with out turning a wrench as you go down the track

It is a brave new world

Finally technology has come to our sport

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340Cuda VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,669 Likes: 3,852 Liked 800 Times in 337 Posts	Re: 2011 Dodge Challenger V10 Drag Pak While I look forward to seeing these cars on the track, I don’t see anything wrong with the former policy of build 500 for stock, 50 for Super Stock and a few for FX. In their day the 68 A body race cars had a lot of items that were pretty far afield from the production cars. While I would like to see a lot of the cars in Super Stock run in a Modified Eliminator that is not going to happen, the 2011 Drag Paks are pretty tame compared to the little Pro Stockers that run in the eliminator today. A little off this topic but like I have said before, we don’t need any more classes but I think the blown cars should be in separate classes. Bill Lamb

10-03-2010, 02:01 PM	#70
Andys dad VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arcadia, Ca Posts: 1,571 Likes: 48 Liked 175 Times in 78 Posts	Re: 2011 Dodge Challenger V10 Drag Pak Well I have held off posting because this sort screws up my idea of having the first V10 Viper in stock. Very disappointing for me. This engine will be equipped with what is know as a "cam within a cam" From Chrysler's post "Unique engine calibration" Real time changes to lobe centers and duration and overlap by the on-board computer I guess they have fixed the oiling issues the V10 has and figured out how to put some seat pressure on the valves Move over boys there is a new sheriff in town If you didn't like variable fuel adjustments during a run related to atmosphere and barometer - well now deal with - changing you cam with out turning a wrench as you go down the track It is a brave new world Finally technology has come to our sport __________________ time is our most precious resource, you can always make more money but you can never make more time spend your time wisely with the ones you love - Ron Durham Last edited by Andys dad; 10-03-2010 at 02:05 PM.