FS cars exempt from HP? - Page 7

treekiller · 10-07-2014, 05:42 PM

the simple fix I was referring to was for guys with older cars running newer cars that didn't have a chance taking out heads up runs in in eliminations would give everybody a chance. As for the new cars qualify number one without losing horsepower that will never get changed

treekiller · 10-07-2014, 05:48 PM

why would people spend 150 thousand on a car that is factored just like everyone else's? then you will lose interest from the big 3 manufacturers when nobody is buying any more of those cars

HR9121 · 10-07-2014, 06:32 PM

No the simple fix is to keep the rules the same for everyone that is the same class, eliminator,etc. I understand they are trying to develop a following for these cars and thats fine, let them have the factory shootouts but dont qualify them on the same sheet with everyone else with seperate rules!

Alan Roehrich · 10-07-2014, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by treekiller

Shoe polish people. Nobody has to sell or park anything. Such a simple fix but everybody including the guys who are getting their a$$e$ kicked don't wanna change it. Get out of the 70s

If you want pure bracket racing, then you go pure bracket racing. Converting Stock Eliminator to pure bracket racing is not the solution, and certainly not the solution anyone here is looking for.

treekiller · 10-07-2014, 07:05 PM

just as I stated in that post

Alan Roehrich · 10-07-2014, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by treekiller

just as I stated in that post

Changing the important basic fundamental characteristics of Stock Eliminator does not solve a problem, it merely destroys the class, plain and simple.

If you want to bracket race, there are thousands of bracket races for you, have at it, best of luck to you.

Sean Marconette · 10-07-2014, 07:16 PM

What does shoe polish have to do with this topic?

If every car that is competing in the same eliminator does not have to follow the same rules, how is that not going to segregate the racers that compete in Stock? Its the us against them. Clear as night and day. The new cars are cool, no doubt about it, and nothing against the owners either. If there is already a race within a race, then allow the guys not in FS to swing for the fence without a penalty too in the regular race. Not rocket science, same rules apply to all if your car competes in Stock regardless if it is FS or not. If FS competes at 4 national events and no AHFS, it should apply to the non-FS cars too.

Sean

Mickey Whaley · 10-07-2014, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Changing the important basic fundamental characteristics of Stock Eliminator does not solve a problem, it merely destroys the class, plain and simple.

If you want to bracket race, there are thousands of bracket races for you, have at it, best of luck to you.

Alan thanks for the post the topic is what is fair for the class not shoe polish not a bracket race at hundreds of places what you get is what I get as ken says stay on the topic.

Mickey Whaley · 10-07-2014, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HR9121

No the simple fix is to keep the rules the same for everyone that is the same class, eliminator,etc. I understand they are trying to develop a following for these cars and thats fine, let them have the factory shootouts but dont qualify them on the same sheet with everyone else with seperate rules!

That's right cooter

novassdude · 10-07-2014, 07:55 PM

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I understand why some racers are upset with NHRA and how they are handling the FS class, but there are some good reasons for the no hp. One reason I can tell you is that if they were to give this new class hp, it would take to long to see what the car potential is. These cars are running all out all the time, NHRA now knows what these cars can run. .[/QUOTE]

Couldn't they accomplish this same thing by giving them a low index that would take a crazy fast run to hit the -1.00 mark then they can run hard all the time and still follow the rules with the rest of the class.

10-07-2014, 05:42 PM	#61
treekiller Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 124 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: FS cars exempt from HP? the simple fix I was referring to was for guys with older cars running newer cars that didn't have a chance taking out heads up runs in in eliminations would give everybody a chance. As for the new cars qualify number one without losing horsepower that will never get changed

10-07-2014, 05:48 PM	#62
treekiller Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 124 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: FS cars exempt from HP? why would people spend 150 thousand on a car that is factored just like everyone else's? then you will lose interest from the big 3 manufacturers when nobody is buying any more of those cars

10-07-2014, 06:32 PM	#63
HR9121 Live Reporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 3,467 Likes: 146 Liked 3,363 Times in 731 Posts	Re: FS cars exempt from HP? No the simple fix is to keep the rules the same for everyone that is the same class, eliminator,etc. I understand they are trying to develop a following for these cars and thats fine, let them have the factory shootouts but dont qualify them on the same sheet with everyone else with seperate rules! __________________ James Williamson W200 J/SA. SS/JA

10-07-2014, 07:05 PM	#65
treekiller Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 124 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: FS cars exempt from HP? just as I stated in that post

10-07-2014, 07:16 PM	#67
Sean Marconette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 977 Likes: 792 Liked 275 Times in 76 Posts	Re: FS cars exempt from HP? What does shoe polish have to do with this topic? If every car that is competing in the same eliminator does not have to follow the same rules, how is that not going to segregate the racers that compete in Stock? Its the us against them. Clear as night and day. The new cars are cool, no doubt about it, and nothing against the owners either. If there is already a race within a race, then allow the guys not in FS to swing for the fence without a penalty too in the regular race. Not rocket science, same rules apply to all if your car competes in Stock regardless if it is FS or not. If FS competes at 4 national events and no AHFS, it should apply to the non-FS cars too. Sean __________________ Sean Marconette 84 Mustang 5060 SS/N

10-07-2014, 07:55 PM	#70
novassdude Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: usa Posts: 752 Likes: 204 Liked 136 Times in 49 Posts	Re: FS cars exempt from HP? [QUOTE= I understand why some racers are upset with NHRA and how they are handling the FS class, but there are some good reasons for the no hp. One reason I can tell you is that if they were to give this new class hp, it would take to long to see what the car potential is. These cars are running all out all the time, NHRA now knows what these cars can run. .[/QUOTE] Couldn't they accomplish this same thing by giving them a low index that would take a crazy fast run to hit the -1.00 mark then they can run hard all the time and still follow the rules with the rest of the class.